As long as RGIII is 100% for 2013 training camp...

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I wish people would just get off the stupid "gotta blame somebody" bandwagon. What happened happened. Get over with. Nobody to blame. It's not going to magically heal Griffin's knee.

So you want the entire fanbase to simply ignore one of the biggest blunders this organization has ever produced? Yes, I think not pulling your star QB (whom you just gave up the farm for) when it was evident he was injured and ineffective is one of the bigger blunders I've seen to date with this organization. First would be hiring Vinny.


Nobody gave a damn about Leslie Frazier pulling Ponder for a injury. Nobody. Not a single peep. Sure they lost, but I don't blame Frazier for not starting Ponder.

This isn't a hindsight issue. This is a complete failure on the part of our medical staff and our coaching staff. There are no two ways about it. No hindsight bullshit either...this isn't a hindsight issue.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So you want the entire fanbase to simply ignore one of the biggest blunders this organization has ever produced? Yes, I think not pulling your star QB (whom you just gave up the farm for) when it was evident he was injured and ineffective is one of the bigger blunders I've seen to date with this organization. First would be hiring Vinny.


Nobody gave a damn about Leslie Frazier pulling Ponder for a injury. Nobody. Not a single peep. Sure they lost, but I don't blame Frazier for not starting Ponder.

This isn't a hindsight issue. This is a complete failure on the part of our medical staff and our coaching staff. There are no two ways about it. No hindsight bullshit either...this isn't a hindsight issue.

but ponder never walked on water

[DCtoAZ]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Nobody gave a damn about Leslie Frazier pulling Ponder for a injury. Nobody. Not a single peep. Sure they lost, but I don't blame Frazier for not starting Ponder.

come on bro,nobody gave a shit about Frazier pulling Ponder because he sucks and just hands it to AP. RG3 PLAYED THE LAST 2 WEEKS AND WE WON. WTF are you talking about. He landed weirdly trying to get that bad snap and yes he was hindered but we were winning that damn game for most of the day. Don't compare FRAZIER/PONDER/WEBB TO SHANNY/RG3/KIRK COUSINS

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So you want the entire fanbase to simply ignore one of the biggest blunders this organization has ever produced? Yes, I think not pulling your star QB (whom you just gave up the farm for) when it was evident he was injured and ineffective is one of the bigger blunders I've seen to date with this organization. First would be hiring Vinny.


Nobody gave a damn about Leslie Frazier pulling Ponder for a injury. Nobody. Not a single peep. Sure they lost, but I don't blame Frazier for not starting Ponder.

This isn't a hindsight issue. This is a complete failure on the part of our medical staff and our coaching staff. There are no two ways about it. No hindsight bullshit either...this isn't a hindsight issue.

What's the point of the blame game? In the end, RG3 is the one that knows how he feels and what he is capable/not capable of doing. Doctors are not going to have an MRI/X-Rays right then and there to fully say what is going on. Hell, we don't even now after an MRI no one knows what's going on. Shanahan's needs to worry about now what to do without RG3 in the near future. And RG3 needs to learn from this, get better, and move on.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What's the point of the blame game? In the end, RG3 is the one that knows how he feels and what he is capable/not capable of doing. Doctors are not going to have an MRI/X-Rays right then and there to fully say what is going on. Hell, we don't even now after an MRI no one knows what's going on. Shanahan's needs to worry about now what to do without RG3 in the near future. And RG3 needs to learn from this, get better, and move on.

You cannot listen to a player in regards to a injury. He could have had a broken spine and still been begging to get in the game. That's how they are. This decision is up to a medical staff and coaching staff. C'mon man, it was obvious this guy should not have been playing. You don't need a medical degree or even stay at a Holiday Inn Express to saw that. Some things are just blatantly obvious. That was one of them.


Again, I think after this, those duties should be stripped from Shanahan and put on the world renowned doctor they've hired.

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

Mike Shanahan said he didn't speak to the doctors between Robert Griffin's 1st quarter re-aggravation & when the QB came back into game.

^^See...this shit is a problem. A huge problem.

[NC_Skins]

double post.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You cannot listen to a player in regards to a injury. He could have had a broken spine and still been begging to get in the game. That's how they are. This decision is up to a medical staff and coaching staff. C'mon man, it was obvious this guy should not have been playing. You don't need a medical degree or even stay at a Holiday Inn Express to saw that. Some things are just blatantly obvious. That was one of them.


Again, I think after this, those duties should be stripped from Shanahan and put on the world renowned doctor they've hired.

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen
Mike Shanahan said he didn't speak to the doctors between Robert Griffin's 1st quarter re-aggravation & when the QB came back into game.

^^See...this shit is a problem. A huge problem.

I am sure everyone involved has learned their lesson. Shanny is not perfect, nor is RG3. The blame game is not going to fix RG3's knee or get us back in the playoffs. Coaches/players gamble with these decisions all the time. Heck, I've heard that Garcon's injury could have come back at any time. Not the same context, but I am just saying that these do or die decisions happen all the time.

Had RG3 finished the game and won (with similar health results), we'd be praising them for bravery and guts.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I am sure everyone involved has learned their lesson. Shanny is not perfect, nor is RG3. The blame game is not going to fix RG3's knee or get us back in the playoffs. Coaches/players gamble with these decisions all the time. Heck, I've heard that Garcon's injury could have come back at any time. Not the same context, but I am just saying that these do or die decisions happen all the time.

Had RG3 finished the game and won (with similar health results), we'd be praising them for bravery and guts.

Maybe you,not me
I dont even care that much about winning the game
Before the game started me n my buddy both said win or lose,were happy for the season,but we had no way of knowing Shanahan would ruin that for us