A Few Words About London Fletcher....

[calia]

That may be, but I don't see their agents offering vet min because of concern that they'd be cut otherwise. They have to know that the Redskins need them and want them, and that desire will translate to more than the vet min.

Is anyone else finding themselves starting to obsess about next season already? After such a long time without tasting success, it's hard to let go of the 2012 season. It's like when you cross the desert and finally reach a cool pond of water never wanting to leave it. I was at the last home playoff game in 1999 (also a scrappy affair -- Brad Johnson actually body-slammed Robert Porcher -- it was phenomenal); it seems like a lifetime ago.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Vet Min? No way. All three of those guys can find way more money than that somewhere else. Should they come back here for less money to be a part of this? Absolutley, and all three I think would....but if we offered any of them the vet minimum after what they've done (specifically Moss/Fletcher), I'd walk too.

That said, I thought all three played major roles this season and I'd like to see them all brought back, but Fletcher would be the most important. He was a freak the second half of the season.

Halll has said that he'd be willing to re-structure his contract, although it wasn't clear whether he'd take a pay cut or not.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Halll has said that he'd be willing to re-structure his contract, although it wasn't clear whether he'd take a pay cut or not.

"Like I said, whatever I’ve got to do to be here, I’m going to try to do that."

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Halll has said that he'd be willing to re-structure his contract, although it wasn't clear whether he'd take a pay cut or not.

Hall has very little, if any, guaranteed money left on his contract due to his restructure in the uncapped year that initially brought on the cap penalty. Hall has no choice but to take a pay cut. He makes something like 8 mil this year and costs basically nothing to cut him. We cant keep him without a pay cut (we can but it makes no sense to) and if he doesnt take one, he gets cut. Either way, thats a pay cut for Hall, and he has no leverage in negotiations since the guaranteed money in his contract is gone.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Hall has very little, if any, guaranteed money left on his contract due to his restructure in the uncapped year that initially brought on the cap penalty. Hall has no choice but to take a pay cut. He makes something like 8 mil this year and costs basically nothing to cut him. We cant keep him without a pay cut (we can but it makes no sense to) and if he doesnt take one, he gets cut. Either way, thats a pay cut for Hall, and he has no leverage in negotiations since the guaranteed money in his contract is gone.

Sounds like he'll be taking a paycut, since he sounds pretty determined to stay. I still don't know if I want him at FS, b/c I'd rather have a young guy that's going to be there for years.

[DCtoAZ]

Originally Posted by los panda

he, along w deangelo hall and santana moss, will sign vet min deals as a show of faith.

thats maybe pushing it a little bit but none of those 3 dont think something special is brewing and why not go for one more run at super bowl. I expect all 3 back

[REDSKINS4ever]

If London Fletcher returns it will be because he strongly feels the Redskins can make it all the way to the Super Bowl. Fletcher deserves another ring.....

[calia]

I don't see a vet minimum for him, and we'd be fools to push for that (for Moss or Hall either, for that matter -- their individual play warrants more than the vet min). But I might imagine he could re-structure, and assuming he decides to come back, he has to like his chances of getting back to the post-season next year and, as we all know, in the post-season just about anything can happen.

It is hard to overstate his value on the field in terms of how he directs the defense. Countless times this season -- especially during the streak -- we'd see him dash to the line, wave his hands and direct guys re: coverage and blitzing, to good effect. I think we have some good LBs on the team -- Perry Riley made real strides this year, Rob Jackson showed some playmaking ability, and Kerrigan was solid albeit not spectacular. But none of the guys we have on defense can fulfill that "coach on the field" role. And that seems to be a hallmark of some of the very best defenses -- think of John Lynch for the Bucs, Ray Lewis for the Ravens, and Brian Urlacher for the Bears. A savvy veteran who understands the game so well is really vital (you need that in your QB as well, and I think we're in good shape there). But I am not sure we have that on D other than London.

[los panda]

please know that i was not serious

[calia]

Originally Posted by los panda

please know that i was not serious

Ahh -- of course not. Foolish of me to be so literal. I am on the West coast and need another cup of coffee, obviously. My bad.

[firstdown]

Fletcher was having more fun out there playing football this year then I have seen in him sense he has been here. He is back next yr.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Fletcher was having more fun out there playing football this year then I have seen in him sense he has been here. He is back next yr.

I agree with that...He had a good time this year. I cannot believe for a moment that he will leave this team (within reason) with the potential for some RING success....possibly in this teams future. It is not lost on him that we are a different squad....

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Fletcher was having more fun out there playing football this year then I have seen in him sense he has been here. He is back next yr.

Yes, most definitely. Five interceptions, four of which occurred while he was battling an injured ankle. Just amazing. #59 is so valuable to this team. I hope he decides to stay.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Fletcher was having more fun out there playing football this year then I have seen in him sense he has been here. He is back next yr.

I hope you're right. His time is winding down though.

[44ever]

Gonna be tough to fill that hole. One more season Fletch!!!