RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Your timing is about a week off.. The salary cap penalty came at the dawn on free agency on Monday afternoon.. The previous week it was clear Manning wasn't coming here and we made the RG3 trade with the Rams. He made it known he wasn't interested in facing his brother twice a year. We never had a legitimate shot at Manning.

Even with the injury, I'm 100% satisfied we made the moves we did. Our short and long term future is much brighter with RG3 than it would have been with Manning.

The penalty was announced at that time, but, contrary to what Shanahan stated initially, the Skins knew it was probably coming months in advance. Subsequent reports made that very clear. Its not like Mara was having secret meetings and negotiations with the NFLPA that the Skins, Cowboys, and other owners didnt know about.

The Skins had a meeting scheduled with Manning even after they made the trade for the #2 pick. You say we never had a legitimate shot of coming here, but youre making a bigger deal of his not wanting to play against his brother than it really was. I beleive SS even stated he was seriously considering us (although we were not necessarily the front runners) at the time.

Personally, i think we were planning two contingencies:
Plan A) trade for RGIII if we think we'll get the cap penalty; or
Plan B) sign manning and draft a QB if we dont.

Even after trading for the #2 overall pick, we still could have turned around and flipped it to the browns if we didnt get the penalty and decided we'd rather do Plan B. Still, i think its obvious that our preference was to go with Plan A. But if the Browns had secured the #2 overall pick and we did not get the penalty, i think we would have made a very strong push for Manning.

Injury aside, RGIIIs a perfect fit here. Luck is a perfect fit for the colts, Mannings a perfect fit in Denver. Everything worked out for the best.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

The penalty was announced at that time, but, contrary to what Shanahan stated initially, the Skins knew it was probably coming months in advance. Subsequent reports made that very clear. Its not like Mara was having secret meetings and negotiations with the NFLPA that the Skins, Cowboys, and other owners didnt know about.

The Skins had a meeting scheduled with Manning even after they made the trade for the #2 pick. You say we never had a legitimate shot of coming here, but youre making a bigger deal of his not wanting to play against his brother than it really was. I beleive SS even stated he was seriously considering us (although we were not necessarily the front runners) at the time.

Personally, i think we were planning two contingencies:
Plan A) trade for RGIII if we think we'll get the cap penalty; or
Plan B) sign manning and draft a QB if we dont.

Even after trading for the #2 overall pick, we still could have turned around and flipped it to the browns if we didnt get the penalty and decided we'd rather do Plan B. Still, i think its obvious that our preference was to go with Plan A. But if the Browns had secured the #2 overall pick and we did not get the penalty, i think we would have made a very strong push for Manning.

Injury aside, RGIIIs a perfect fit here. Luck is a perfect fit for the colts, Mannings a perfect fit in Denver. Everything worked out for the best.

To the contrary of your contrary, multiple insider reports said the Redskins were blindsided by the penalties and severity of them. They had big plans for free agency including addressing CB (Finnegan) and RT before they got hit at the last minute. Additionally, it was pretty clear that Manning had little to no legitimate interest in the Redskins. He may have considered us because of our need and his admiration of Shanahan (plus a close relationship to one of the owners) but we were not a factor in his search for a team.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

To the contrary of your contrary, multiple insider reports said the Redskins were blindsided by the penalties and severity of them. They had big plans for free agency including addressing CB (Finnegan) and RT before they got hit at the last minute. Additionally, it was pretty clear that Manning had little to no legitimate interest in the Redskins. He may have considered us because of our need and his admiration of Shanahan (plus a close relationship to one of the owners) but we were not a factor in his search for a team.

I gotta agree with Pain on this one. From all that I remember from the wirl wind of last March was that withing a day or two of Manning getting cut by the Colts we were ruled out of a possible place for him to sign.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

To the contrary of your contrary, multiple insider reports said the Redskins were blindsided by the penalties and severity of them. They had big plans for free agency including addressing CB (Finnegan) and RT before they got hit at the last minute. Additionally, it was pretty clear that Manning had little to no legitimate interest in the Redskins. He may have considered us because of our need and his admiration of Shanahan (plus a close relationship to one of the owners) but we were not a factor in his search for a team.

That was PR BS. As i said, the skins knew about the possibility for the penalties long before they were approved. They big plans for free agency if the penalties were not approved, but they always had a contingency plan prepared in case they were penalized.

Also, youre statement that we were not a factor in mannings search for a team is not logical. If we werent a factor, he wouldnt have bothered to meet with us. Unless you think it was like going out on a pity date lol.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

That was PR BS. As i said, the skins knew about the possibility for the penalties long before they were approved. They big plans for free agency if the penalties were not approved, but they always had a contingency plan prepared in case they were penalized.

Also, youre statement that we were not a factor in mannings search for a team is not logical. If we werent a factor, he wouldnt have bothered to meet with us. Unless you think it was like going out on a pity date lol.

He never did actually meet with us to my knowledge. We had him on our list of potential Qbs, but he never had a meeting with us a la the meetings he held with MIA, TEN, HOU, ARI, and DEN.

We were ruled out fairly quickly after he became avaiable.