A Few Words About London Fletcher....

[los panda]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Correct.

yikes, what kind of hit did we take when deion retired? he was only 1 year into his contract, right? was it 7 year/$56M ($8M signing bonus)?

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by los panda

yikes, what kind of hit did we take when deion retired? he was only 1 year into his contract, right? was it 7 year/$56M ($8M signing bonus)?

Deion was a couple years before my cap sheets so I don't remember what the deapcap hit was (and am too lazy to look it up). But I imagine it was a lot more than $2.8M.

Compared to our deadcap hits in the past, $2.8M is a drop in the bucket.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Deion was a couple years before my cap sheets so I don't remember what the deapcap hit was (and am too lazy to look it up). But I imagine it was a lot more than $2.8M.

Compared to our deadcap hits in the past, $2.8M is a drop in the bucket.

Try 8 for Deion, though I think it was negotiated down somehow when he went to the Ravens if I recall

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Try 8 for Deion, though I think it was negotiated down somehow when he went to the Ravens if I recall

They also implemented the "deion rule" which limited the signing bonus and amount of $ you can push to future years.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Try 8 for Deion, though I think it was negotiated down somehow when he went to the Ravens if I recall

does this story check out?

"Sanders played one season with the Redskins, having four interceptions before retiring in 2001. Late in the 2002 NFL season Sanders contemplated a return to the NFL, specifically to the Oakland Raiders. With his rights still the property of the Redskins, he lobbied and received his release from the team and was waived. The San Diego Chargers claimed Sanders' rights and placed him on their Reserve-Retired List. Sanders opted to stay retired."

"In 2004, Sanders announced that he was going to end his retirement, after being lured back to football by Ravens cornerback Corey Fuller, linebacker Ray Lewis and best friend Joe Zorovich. He signed a 1-year deal with the Baltimore Ravens to be a nickelback."

is that true? we released/waived his rights for no reason? then the chargers got his rights? wouldn't the chargers have still had his rights in 2004, when he wanted to join the ravens?

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by los panda

does this story check out?

"Sanders played one season with the Redskins, having four interceptions before retiring in 2001. Late in the 2002 NFL season Sanders contemplated a return to the NFL, specifically to the Oakland Raiders. With his rights still the property of the Redskins, he lobbied and received his release from the team and was waived. The San Diego Chargers claimed Sanders' rights and placed him on their Reserve-Retired List. Sanders opted to stay retired."

"In 2004, Sanders announced that he was going to end his retirement, after being lured back to football by Ravens cornerback Corey Fuller, linebacker Ray Lewis and best friend Joe Zorovich. He signed a 1-year deal with the Baltimore Ravens to be a nickelback."

is that true? we released/waived his rights for no reason? then the chargers got his rights? wouldn't the chargers have still had his rights in 2004, when he wanted to join the ravens?

San Diego only claimed him to block him from going to the Raiders. By the time he wanted to come back for the Ravens, Im sure that his people already had it cleared with San Diego before he even announced his comeback.

As for the Skins waiving him for no reason. Smoot said he thought it was negotiated down when he went to the Ravens. I thought, and could certainly be wrong, that we negotiated money back from Deion when he asked for his release (In the attempt to go to the Raiders). The fact that San Diego blocked that move didnt really matter to anything Skins related. All we cared is that we got some of that cap space back.

Heres the main question I have. Even though Deion was retired, wouldnt the Raiders talking to him be considered tampering due to the fact that his rights were still the Redskins?