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Old 01-23-2013, 04:48 PM   #1
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:54 PM   #2
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Re: Dr. Andrews Using Stem Cells to Speed Recovery??

I think the takeaway here is that when Andrews says 6-8 months, there's a possible medical reason to believe in that prognosis. He's in a much better position to make that call than medical experts who've had nothing to do with RG3's surgery chirp about the typical recovery period for an ACL reconstruction.

I don't think Andrews would put his sterling reputation on the line to back an overly optimistic stance by the team. I understand he's collecting a fee from the team, but his own business incentive is to retain his sterling reputation as the sports medicine pioneer that he is, so he can continue raking it in from his fundamental business. What he earns from his sports medicine surgical business far outstrips any money he collects from the Redskins; he knows where his bread gets buttered.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:30 PM   #3
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I think the takeaway here is that when Andrews says 6-8 months, there's a possible medical reason to believe in that prognosis. He's in a much better position to make that call than medical experts who've had nothing to do with RG3's surgery chirp about the typical recovery period for an ACL reconstruction.

I don't think Andrews would put his sterling reputation on the line to back an overly optimistic stance by the team. I understand he's collecting a fee from the team, but his own business incentive is to retain his sterling reputation as the sports medicine pioneer that he is, so he can continue raking it in from his fundamental business. What he earns from his sports medicine surgical business far outstrips any money he collects from the Redskins; he knows where his bread gets buttered.
Nail on the head.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:50 PM   #4
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I think the takeaway here is that when Andrews says 6-8 months, there's a possible medical reason to believe in that prognosis. He's in a much better position to make that call than medical experts who've had nothing to do with RG3's surgery chirp about the typical recovery period for an ACL reconstruction.

I don't think Andrews would put his sterling reputation on the line to back an overly optimistic stance by the team. I understand he's collecting a fee from the team, but his own business incentive is to retain his sterling reputation as the sports medicine pioneer that he is, so he can continue raking it in from his fundamental business. What he earns from his sports medicine surgical business far outstrips any money he collects from the Redskins; he knows where his bread gets buttered.
Agreed!! . . . This was the whole reason i posted the article in the first place . . . just to show there is reason for the hope that RGIII will be back for the start of the season!! . . . i wasn't trying to start a stem cell research debate, nor anything even remotely close to one.
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:04 PM   #5
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I think the takeaway here is that when Andrews says 6-8 months, there's a possible medical reason to believe in that prognosis. He's in a much better position to make that call than medical experts who've had nothing to do with RG3's surgery chirp about the typical recovery period for an ACL reconstruction.

I don't think Andrews would put his sterling reputation on the line to back an overly optimistic stance by the team. I understand he's collecting a fee from the team, but his own business incentive is to retain his sterling reputation as the sports medicine pioneer that he is, so he can continue raking it in from his fundamental business. What he earns from his sports medicine surgical business far outstrips any money he collects from the Redskins; he knows where his bread gets buttered.
This does not sound like a Dr. who is not willing to put his sterling reputation on the line.

(This is a statement from Dr Andrews before the Redskins Seahawks game.)
“I’ve been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has,” Andrews added. “He’s doing a lot better this week, but he’s still recovering and I’m holding my breath because of it.”

Remember RG3 was 4 weeks into a "lvl 1 sprain" why so much concern? If he's a nervous wreck then he should not have cleared him for play, yet he did. Pass the butter please...
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:17 PM   #6
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This does not sound like a Dr. who is not willing to put his sterling reputation on the line.

(This is a statement from Dr Andrews before the Redskins Seahawks game.)
“I’ve been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has,” Andrews added. “He’s doing a lot better this week, but he’s still recovering and I’m holding my breath because of it.”

Remember RG3 was 4 weeks into a "lvl 1 sprain" why so much concern? If he's a nervous wreck then he should not have cleared him for play, yet he did. Pass the butter please...
I am sure he, and any other doctor, holds their breath whenever a player comes back from a sprain. If doctors had their druthers the players would be out 8 weeks for a sprain to make 1000% sure the player was completely healed.

But that's not the reality of the NFL.

I definitely think he should have been pulled once he hurt himself at the end of the first quarter, that was clearly where he did damage to the knee. But entering that game he was 100% ready to play, as evidenced by that first quarter (two quick TDs) despite Andrews' nervous feelings.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:51 AM   #7
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Who wants to bet that Shanny no longer listens to RGIII when it comes to his health again?
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Who wants to bet that Shanny no longer listens to RGIII when it comes to his health again?
im with you on that no way he leaves him in the game again if we ever see the same type of scenario.
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:42 PM   #9
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there's nothing scientifically controversial about stem cells. they work. amazingly well in a lot of cases. I'm not a big fan of burying our collective head in the sand because some people have religious heebeejeebees about even mentioning them (even non embrionic).
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:49 PM   #10
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there's nothing scientifically controversial about stem cells. they work. amazingly well in a lot of cases. I'm not a big fan of burying our collective head in the sand because some people have religious heebeejeebees about even mentioning them (even non embrionic).
That was my point above. You put it clearer. Thank you.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:07 PM   #11
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Re: Dr. Andrews Using Stem Cells to Speed Recovery??

Hmmm.....a drill into your pelvis......
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:07 PM   #12
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Re: Dr. Andrews Using Stem Cells to Speed Recovery??

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Old 01-23-2013, 09:08 PM   #13
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Re: Dr. Andrews Using Stem Cells to Speed Recovery??

Wow, if I were Bob Griff, I would find this a little condescending:

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This is also a matter of genetics," Peterson said. "Look at my dad. And my mom's side, my aunts and uncles, they're all ripped. At 50 years old, they've got six packs and eight packs.

"My body just heals differently. I know it has a lot to do with rehabilitation and work ethic -- but I really credit my genetics for my recovery as much as anything else.
I have no problem with the suggestion that Peterson is a genetic marvel. But if I were Griffin I'd be like yo holmes, what am I, chopped liver? There's a reason I can run a 4.3 and win at hurdles and throw a ball on a dime. Jamaal Charles is another example of a lightning-quick-but-wiry athlete coming back strong from an ACL.

Elite athletes tend to heal quickly, and maybe this stem cell treatment has something to do with it. Being an elite athlete and healer is not exclusive to Adrian Peterson.
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Another source of stem cells.

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Old 01-23-2013, 09:53 PM   #15
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Being cleared to play does not mean a player is fully healed.

A level one LCL sprain can take 3 weeks to 3 months to fully recover from.

Grade I Sprain of the Lateral Collateral Ligament (LCL)

Naturally, Andrews had cause for concern.
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