Darrelle Revis is up for trade per Jets owner

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The reason why this trade won't happen is because we have no money and really nothing to give up for him.

Revis, Willis, Bowman, Ware, Earl Thomas, JJ Watt, Patrick Peterson, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Wake, Von Miller, and Duane Brown are the only players I would consider trading for if they were ever on the trading block

So you would not trade for Fitzgerald, Ngata, Graham, Gronk, Jahri Evans, Patrick Peterson, AJ Green, Geno Atkins, Daryl Washington, Kam Chancellor, Calais Campbell, Julio Jones, Joe Thomas, Vince Wilfork, Ray Rice or D'Qwell Jackson?

I just want to make sure I understand which superstar players that the Redskins would never get you would be willing to trade for.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So you would not trade for Fitzgerald, Ngata, Graham, Gronk, Jahri Evans, Patrick Peterson, AJ Green, Geno Atkins, Daryl Washington, Kam Chancellor, Calais Campbell, Julio Jones, Joe Thomas, Vince Wilfork, Ray Rice or D'Qwell Jackson?

I just want to make sure I understand which superstar players that the Redskins would never get you would be willing to trade for.

I see risks to a lot of those players. Minor risks, but even a minor risk that I've had before has backfired on either us or other teams. Like Albert Haynesworth or Nnamdi. Nnamdi especially, thats a guy who everyone in the league regarded as the 2nd best CB, then he changed defenses and it all went down hill from their. My list of guys are guys that no matter the scheme, are 0 risk players in my opinion.

On your list I'll go in order:
Fitz- too old now, too much to give up anyway
Ngata- Maybe, he could also be good because of the ravens defense ie, Suggs, Reed, Lewis is my minor concern
Graham and Gronk- Thought about them, but they both have been injury prone of late. Graham I'd give the slight edge too, but he can't block that great.
Jahri Evans, Geno Atkins, Joe Thomas--don't fit our scheme on offense. Nor does Geno on a 3-4 defense, at least I don't think so, therefore its a risk I'm not willing to take, see haynesworth.
Wilfork--If it were 2 years ago yes, but now no
Ray Rice--He'd be pricey, the ravens wouldn't trade him, and running backs like him are a lot easier to find, than a RB like Peterson.
Patrick Peterson-- I've seen enough potential with him to say he'd be good in any scheme, and if you read my previous post his name is included...
Daryl Washington, Calais Campbell--They run a 3-4 but it is supposedly different than our 3-4. I want to see more than just 1 good year from DW to say definite yes or nos. He joins the maybe crowd with Ngata. Calais, he's good, but he takes off plays a lot too. Would he do that here or stay the same? Questions, little ones, that make you question a big trade like him.
Chancellor-- I question some of his man coverage ability. I really think that he is being covered up by Earl Thomas and the 2 CBs, which is whats making him look great. Is he a great safety? sure. But would I give up a lot for him as opposed to drafting someone? No.
DQwell--No, he too is injury prone.
Julio--No he, like Garcon, can't stay healthy
AJ Green-- Yes I would trade for him, doubt that Cincy trades him though since he's their best player (I put Calvin on my list, because if Detroit keeps sucking they maybe forced to trade him for lots of picks and players down the road)

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I see risks to a lot of those players. Minor risks, but even a minor risk that I've had before has backfired on either us or other teams. Like Albert Haynesworth or Nnamdi. Nnamdi especially, thats a guy who everyone in the league regarded as the 2nd best CB, then he changed defenses and it all went down hill from their. My list of guys are guys that no matter the scheme, are 0 risk players in my opinion.

On your list I'll go in order:
Fitz- too old now, too much to give up anyway
Ngata- Maybe, he could also be good because of the ravens defense ie, Suggs, Reed, Lewis is my minor concern
Graham and Gronk- Thought about them, but they both have been injury prone of late. Graham I'd give the slight edge too, but he can't block that great.
Jahri Evans, Geno Atkins, Joe Thomas--don't fit our scheme on offense. Nor does Geno on a 3-4 defense, at least I don't think so, therefore its a risk I'm not willing to take, see haynesworth.
Wilfork--If it were 2 years ago yes, but now no
Ray Rice--He'd be pricey, the ravens wouldn't trade him, and running backs like him are a lot easier to find, than a RB like Peterson.
Patrick Peterson-- I've seen enough potential with him to say he'd be good in any scheme, and if you read my previous post his name is included...
Daryl Washington, Calais Campbell--They run a 3-4 but it is supposedly different than our 3-4. I want to see more than just 1 good year from DW to say definite yes or nos. He joins the maybe crowd with Ngata. Calais, he's good, but he takes off plays a lot too. Would he do that here or stay the same? Questions, little ones, that make you question a big trade like him.
Chancellor-- I question some of his man coverage ability. I really think that he is being covered up by Earl Thomas and the 2 CBs, which is whats making him look great. Is he a great safety? sure. But would I give up a lot for him as opposed to drafting someone? No.
DQwell--No, he too is injury prone.
Julio--No he, like Garcon, can't stay healthy
AJ Green-- Yes I would trade for him, doubt that Cincy trades him though since he's their best player (I put Calvin on my list, because if Detroit keeps sucking they maybe forced to trade him for lots of picks and players down the road)

I was just saying all stars, that just like you listed will never be traded. 49ers will not part ways with either of their all star linebackers, Texans won't ever trade Watt, Johnson, and Peterson just signed extensions, I am just stating players that won't leave just like you said. Almost all are either below 30 or at 30. Which by the way would make them older than Fitzgerald (Ware and Wake). The list you created are players that their teams will not be dumb enough to let go.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I was just saying all stars, that just like you listed will never be traded. 49ers will not part ways with either of their all star linebackers, Texans won't ever trade Watt, Johnson, and Peterson just signed extensions, I am just stating players that won't leave just like you said. Almost all are either below 30 or at 30. Which by the way would make them older than Fitzgerald (Ware and Wake). The list you created are players that their teams will not be dumb enough to let go.

The NFL is a funny business, so any trade is possible and any move is possible. Your always going to have exceptions to your own rules of players. Wake maybe 30, but he's been in the league for 3 years. Ware is still a beast and the same player he's been for the past 8+ years. Fitz I've noticed his speed has declined over the years. As I stated in the first post, these are the only players id consider trading for, assuming the other team would consider trading them. Obviously 90% of those players will probably never be traded, but if any of those players would be traded I would definitely give up picks or players not named robert griffin for them.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The NFL is a funny business, so any trade is possible and any move is possible. Your always going to have exceptions to your own rules of players. Wake maybe 30, but he's been in the league for 3 years. Ware is still a beast and the same player he's been for the past 8+ years. Fitz I've noticed his speed has declined over the years. As I stated in the first post, these are the only players id consider trading for, assuming the other team would consider trading them. Obviously 90% of those players will probably never be traded, but if any of those players would be traded I would definitely give up picks or players not named robert griffin for them.

Fitzgerald is just as fast he just does not have a QB to throw him a deep ball. Last year he was averaging 17 yards a catch, you will look slow if no one can get you the ball deep, or the ball at all. He is still just as good as he always has been. Revis also has had injury problems which is why I would not trade for him. The year before hamstring, this year knee, not exactly healthy. Ware fell of this year (due to injury). Against the Redskins he looked broken. But anything is possible. If you notice however, every player mentioned plays for the team they were drafted by except for Wake but he is special in the way he came to the league, basically an UDFA... that is why you draft your own players and develop them to be beast. Hence why I do not like trades in the first place.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Fitzgerald is just as fast he just does not have a QB to throw him a deep ball. Last year he was averaging 17 yards a catch, you will look slow if no one can get you the ball deep, or the ball at all. He is still just as good as he always has been. Revis also has had injury problems which is why I would not trade for him. The year before hamstring, this year knee, not exactly healthy. Ware fell of this year (due to injury). Against the Redskins he looked broken. But anything is possible. If you notice however, every player mentioned plays for the team they were drafted by except for Wake but he is special in the way he came to the league, basically an UDFA... that is why you draft your own players and develop them to be beast. Hence why I do not like trades in the first place.

NO WR is worth 15+ million a year. None. The game's most important spots are the QB followed by the OL/DL. Those are the places you invest heavily in. The Lions and Cards will be dreading that decision to give those contracts out.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

NO WR is worth 15+ million a year. None. The game's most important spots are the QB followed by the OL/DL. Those are the places you invest heavily in. The Lions and Cards will be dreading that decision to give those contracts out.

I'll agree with that. Why I was not a big fan of giving Garcon a big contract.