Answer the question LA

[Daseal]

Your kidding I hope.

Yes, CRT3. It was just sarcasm trying to prove that a Pro Bowl appearence normally means squat.

And how exactly is it that you KNOW Lavar hasn't bought into Williams's system?

How do you know he has? I simply said that until he proves it I won't buy that he believes. Sorry if that's too hard to fathom that I won't close my eyes and jump praying that LaVar is there to catch me not on the other side of the field freelancing.

And I find it hysterical that you even bring up Springs, Griffin and Pierce.

Gee, Not like Sean Springs has been to the Pro Bowl before. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/pb1998.htm
Anyhow, I think you completely missed the fact of that statement. Those players were some of the best at their position last year yet didn't get to the Pro Bowl. Why not?

We didn't have a scheme before Greg Williams? Yeah, that Marvin Lewis. Shame he doesnt have any credentials. Oh, arguably one of the top 3 defenses of all time... Wow. Yeah, you're right. He hasn't had a scheme to buy into! Good thing he didn't listen to that guy and try the 3 point stance.

hat is it that the other players do that makes them "care" so much more about the team? Do they sign long extensions to contracts without testing free agency because they want to be lifelong skins?

Ask them if they want to be the highest paid player for their position, then see what their answer is. Oh, by the way. I bet they wouldn't bitch about roster bonuses that are impossible to the cap to give.

LaVar is an exciting and physically gifted player, but I want to see him play with the team not against it. Granted, he hasn't had much of a chance in Williams scheme and people can always change. I hope he does. I feel the contract was too large for the on-field production. I haven't seen the leadership aspect out of him I had once hoped for and I'm not sure if it's coming. He'll make lots of big plays, but people like to ignore the big plays he gives up because he's out of position.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Daseal

How do you know he has? I simply said that until he proves it I won't buy that he believes. Sorry if that's too hard to fathom that I won't close my eyes and jump praying that LaVar is there to catch me not on the other side of the field freelancing.

I don't have to know that he has......I'm not the one criticizing him for not "giving a fuck about the team". When I criticize a player, I back it with some facts. And I also don't presume things about players as you presume that he's refused to accept Williams's system.

Gee, Not like Sean Springs has been to the Pro Bowl before. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/pb1998.htm

Wow, once......in 1998........yep, you got me there. Clearly he came to the skins in 2004 still in pro bowl form.

Anyhow, I think you completely missed the fact of that statement. Those players were some of the best at their position last year yet didn't get to the Pro Bowl. Why not?

I don't know why not. I think they should have been there too.......but does that necessarily mean that the other CBs, LBs (except for Trotter......I agree with you on that one), and DTs that did make the pro bowl didn't deserve it?

We didn't have a scheme before Greg Williams? Yeah, that Marvin Lewis. Shame he doesnt have any credentials. Oh, arguably one of the top 3 defenses of all time... Wow. Yeah, you're right. He hasn't had a scheme to buy into! Good thing he didn't listen to that guy and try the 3 point stance.

First of all, how many years ago was that? Second of all, how many years did Lavar get to play under Marvin Lewis? You're still holding a grudge against a player for being young and stubborn how many years later? You know what's funny, I can't think of a single coach that's complained about Lavar the way you do. Think there's something to that?

Ask them if they want to be the highest paid player for their position, then see what their answer is.

Huh? You presume they don't want to be the highest paid player for their position?

I feel the contract was too large for the on-field production.

Then take that up with the front office. Go call Danny Boy and tell him what you think. But holding that against Lavar is just crazy. He didn't get that contract by holding out or demanding a trade. He got it because he played great and the REDSKINS decided they wanted to lock this guy up right away and make him a career skin. Give me one good reason you hold his contract against him? Last I heard he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head to get what he felt he deserved (oops, that's right.......that's another member of our team that does that, who you feel is more worthy of praise).

And before you even think about bringing up the contract dispute, tell me one single day that he didn't show up for work or give 100% on the field all the while that dispute was outstanding. Again, in a day in age when players routinely cast aside the good of the team and hold out and pout to get what they want, I think it's ridiculous to say that a guy like Lavar only cares about himself. You couldn't be more wrong about this point, in my humble opinion.

I haven't seen the leadership aspect out of him I had once hoped for and I'm not sure if it's coming.

Really, then tell me who it was that got in the faces of other members of our esteemed defense a few years back for not taking losses seriously and not giving 100% on the bus ride home?