A question for all Redskins fans.....

[44ever]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

No one could have envisioned a 350 pound NT slamming into RG3's leg, which was the root of his knee injury. Anyone who has seen that high light knows that was a freak accident. But it happened and that play alone has a lot to do with why RG3 had surgery on his knee. I'm willing to bet RG3 will dive on those runs from now on and get down on the turf....

Has anyone else noticed that even when RG3 slides the defense goes headhunting? This has happened to him thru college as well. Im sure most of you have noticed but for those who may not have, watch some highlights of RG3 running. Some near misses would have ripped his head off. And the refs usually don't seem to give a crap.

So don't expect RG3 to avoid getting hit just because he slides.

Slow motion replay at 0:35 mark

Robert Griffin III injured off massive hit -...

Watch as the same thing happens on this similar play around the 0:55 mark

Robert Griffin III gets hammered, then scores...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Has anyone else noticed that even when RG3 slides the defense goes headhunting? This has happened to him thru college as well. Im sure most of you have noticed but for those who may not have, watch some highlights of RG3 running. Some near misses would have ripped his head off. And the refs usually don't seem to give a crap.

So don't expect RG3 to avoid getting hit just because he slides.

The defense always tries to take the QB's head off. That's not unique to Griffin.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The defense always tries to take the QB's head off. That's not unique to Griffin.

Right, but there is supposed to be a penalty for leading with your head or hitting the QB in the head. Griffin never draws a flag when hit in this way.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Right, but there is supposed to be a penalty for leading with your head or hitting the QB in the head. Griffin never draws a flag when hit in this way.

Once the QB leaves the pocket he's fair game as a runner.

Griffin needs to give himself up quicker when sliding. On bang-bang plays you often don't get that call unless its really obvious.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Agreed MD. Dude is built.

He looks small to guys who are 6-4 260 and above. He will come back fine. I believe the guy will be around for years. If a guy like JC can survive in this league for 7+ years then RG III will still be here in his 30s. He is 23 this year.

[NC_Skins]

This is exactly why you can't bring Fletcher back at a 7.5 mil price tag.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-linebackers/


Even a restructure isn't going to work because you dont' want to push money into the future on a 38 year old dude.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is exactly why you can't bring Fletcher back at a 7.5 mil price tag.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-linebackers/


Even a restructure isn't going to work because you dont' want to push money into the future on a 38 year old dude.

Who would be his replacement? Better hope there is some one in the draft that can start immediately.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is exactly why you can't bring Fletcher back at a 7.5 mil price tag.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-linebackers/


Even a restructure isn't going to work because you dont' want to push money into the future on a 38 year old dude.

This is a pretty misleading stat imo. It doesnt take into account that most linebackers had help. Our corners needed our safeties and our safeties were busy messing up putting more strain on the LB's. How many times did we see Fletcher or Riley on coverage that most teams would have a safety assigned to?

How many times do other teams stop that stat for players on their team? Such as being in 3 and 7 or longer a lot as opposed to being in 3rd and 1 or 2 all the time. If a 3rd and 7 has a pass completed to a TE that a LB is covering and a safety stops him at 6 yards, it makes this completely strange metric look a whole lot different. Yet says nothing about the play of a LB on the field when comparing two separate LB's. In fact, its an easy metric to score the wrong way. Take my example above. 3rd and 7 and the LB gets beat but gets saved by a safety. 3rd and 1 and the LB has very tight coverage but the pass is complete. He still makes an immediate tackle for a 2 yard gain. That metric has the LB who was lost in left field and got saved by a safety as the better player over a LB in a difficult coverage who got beat for a whole 2 yards but ultimately made his own tackle.

Any metric that takes team stats to rate bad players as good and good players as bad should probably just be ignored.

Now, if you want to have the debate over whether London should be cut, thats fine. But I dont think the proof should be that our secondary was terrible and made our MLB's our main pass defenders. If thats the case, we should look at the secondary first before the LB's.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

This is a pretty misleading stat imo. It doesnt take into account that most linebackers had help. Our corners needed our safeties and our safeties were busy messing up putting more strain on the LB's. How many times did we see Fletcher or Riley on coverage that most teams would have a safety assigned to?

How many times do other teams stop that stat for players on their team? Such as being in 3 and 7 or longer a lot as opposed to being in 3rd and 1 or 2 all the time. If a 3rd and 7 has a pass completed to a TE that a LB is covering and a safety stops him at 6 yards, it makes this completely strange metric look a whole lot different. Yet says nothing about the play of a LB on the field when comparing two separate LB's. In fact, its an easy metric to score the wrong way. Take my example above. 3rd and 7 and the LB gets beat but gets saved by a safety. 3rd and 1 and the LB has very tight coverage but the pass is complete. He still makes an immediate tackle for a 2 yard gain. That metric has the LB who was lost in left field and got saved by a safety as the better player over a LB in a difficult coverage who got beat for a whole 2 yards but ultimately made his own tackle.

Any metric that takes team stats to rate bad players as good and good players as bad should probably just be ignored.

Now, if you want to have the debate over whether London should be cut, thats fine. But I dont think the proof should be that our secondary was terrible and made our MLB's our main pass defenders. If thats the case, we should look at the secondary first before the LB's.

Also a big flaw with the stat is it does not seem to take into account 3 down linebackers vs 2 down linebackers. I still think Fletcher had a great year but I do think he showed signs of his age.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Also a big flaw with the stat is it does not seem to take into account 3 down linebackers vs 2 down linebackers. I still think Fletcher had a great year but I do think he showed signs of his age.

At first I thought Fletch had slowed down. For the first time I saw him hit RBs (like Bradshaw) flush and the RB didn't go down. It was weird, my and my friends were taken aback when Fletcher get a bead on a RB and hits them square the go down.

But, when I read about his nagging injury and more importantly his 'balance' issues I knew it wasn't age slowing Fletch down but injuries.
Then as the season wore on he got over his balance issues and by the end of the season he was back to making plays and hitting with pop.

I would welcome Fletch back with open arms, he would be worth every penny.

[SmootSmack]

Why does everyone always forget about Keenan Robinson?

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why does everyone always forget about Keenan Robinson?

Is that the linebacker the Redskins are banking on to replace Fletcher?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why does everyone always forget about Keenan Robinson?

So this dude is penciled in as the heir to Fletch? I mean, thats cool, he really didnt go out there and impress.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So this dude is penciled in as the heir to Fletch? I mean, thats cool, he really didnt go out there and impress.

He was starting to flash some before he got hurt.

The coaches are high on him.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So this dude is penciled in as the heir to Fletch? I mean, thats cool, he really didnt go out there and impress.

He looked terrible in Dallas. That's all I remember about him from the season.

I'm sure he'll be as good as Fletch though. Defense shouldn't skip a beat. (sarcasm)