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Old 01-28-2013, 06:33 PM   #1
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Re: Republicans rally against 'war on religious freedom'

Maybe math isn't yours area of expertise, but I count 8 people as sponsors, including a Senator.

Representatives Thorpe, Borrelli, Seel, Shope, Smith: Dial, Livingston, Senator Crandell.

Here's the Bill.

I didn't use the word 'god' when I swore my oath of allegiance, but then this is California.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:41 PM   #2
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Maybe math isn't yours area of expertise, but I count 8 people as sponsors, including a Senator.

Representatives Thorpe, Borrelli, Seel, Shope, Smith: Dial, Livingston, Senator Crandell.

Here's the Bill.

I didn't use the word 'god' when I swore my oath of allegiance, but then this is California.
I was going off of what Fd said. Maybe it was only 2 people initially?

I have no idea why you took an oath or what you said, so im guessing here..... but when swearing i believe its implicit that you are swearing to God or at least to a sacred idol, even if God or that idol isnt mentioned. But if you or a bunch of hs kids are uncomfortable with swearing to God or a god, you are all in good company because God forbids it, as is written in the Book of Mathew.

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With that said, it appears all athiests and none pagans are being attacked by Arizona Republicans.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:55 AM   #3
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Maybe math isn't yours area of expertise, but I count 8 people as sponsors, including a Senator.

Representatives Thorpe, Borrelli, Seel, Shope, Smith: Dial, Livingston, Senator Crandell.

Here's the Bill.

I didn't use the word 'god' when I swore my oath of allegiance, but then this is California.
What I looked at only shoudl two at the time.
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Re: Republicans rally against 'war on religious freedom'

Cool:




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Conservative’s Anti-Muhammad Ad Rejected by Detroit Transit System — But Can You Guess Which Ad Was Accepted? | TheBlaze.com
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Re: Republicans rally against 'war on religious freedom'

We don't want anyone getting killed, do we?

There's not much turning the other cheek in islam.
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We don't want anyone getting killed, do we?

There's not much turning the other cheek in islam.

Maybe Chrsitians should throw a sucker punch?
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Maybe Chrsitians should throw a sucker punch?

They should at least push back.....


WWJD? Maybe if they were moneylenders?

I particularly enjoyed the naivete of the following statements:

The challenge, then, at once simple and substantial, is to promote the peaceful messages at the heart of the world’s major faiths, while neutralising perversions of the core teachings.

And:

Given Christianity’s evolution, there are grounds for thinking that Islam may change, too.


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Re: Republicans rally against 'war on religious freedom'

More than just a couple representing the GOP that are nutjobs.

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My suggestion is to the GOPers would do not want to be associated with people like this, than stop voting for people like this. Either that or simply disassociate them with the GOP party and disown them. Until you do, the GOP won't be winning shit in the near future. (unless of course they cheat their way in)
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Of course the problem with one of those is that Muslims are not supposed to "believe in" Muhammad. Muhammad explicitly said that he was a savior and should not be worshiped. Whoever made that image is misinformed about Islam.
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Of course the problem with one of those is that Muslims are not supposed to "believe in" Muhammad. Muhammad explicitly said that he was a savior and should not be worshiped. Whoever made that image is misinformed about Islam.
Just curious, what if it had said Muhammad's teachings. I know it's a hypothetical question, but would that have been seen as less offensive? I am with FD on this one, and don't think either really is appropriate for a public transit system.
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Just curious, what if it had said Muhammad's teachings. I know it's a hypothetical question, but would that have been seen as less offensive? I am with FD on this one, and don't think either really is appropriate for a public transit system.
According to Islam, Muhammad did not really teach. He was merely God's mouthpiece. God spoke through him. The Qur'an contains the words of God, not the words of Muhammad (except in two small spots where Muhammad does speak). Therefore Islamic teachings are God's teachings, not Muhammad's, according to mainstream Islam.

If there is any confusion on this issue, I recommend John Esposito's book <Islam: The Straight Path>, or Karen Armstrong's biography of Muhammad.
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According to Islam, Muhammad did not really teach. He was merely God's mouthpiece. God spoke through him.
And remarkably convenient depending on Mohammad's circumstance.

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The Qur'an contains the words of God, not the words of Muhammad (except in two small spots where Muhammad does speak). Therefore Islamic teachings are God's teachings, not Muhammad's, according to mainstream Islam.

If there is any confusion on this issue, I recommend John Esposito's book <Islam: The Straight Path>, or Karen Armstrong's biography of Muhammad.
I'd recommend Pickthall's translation of the quran followed by The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam for balance. Make sure you understand the difference between Medina and Mecca suras and amuse yourself with ahadith.

Karen Armstrong is a moslem stooge who should be ignored.

I don't try to mask my revulsion of this cult, proponents should be more honest about their fascination.

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According to Islam, Muhammad did not really teach. He was merely God's mouthpiece. God spoke through him. The Qur'an contains the words of God, not the words of Muhammad (except in two small spots where Muhammad does speak). Therefore Islamic teachings are God's teachings, not Muhammad's, according to mainstream Islam.

If there is any confusion on this issue, I recommend John Esposito's book <Islam: The Straight Path>, or Karen Armstrong's biography of Muhammad.
I dated a girl who also must have been gods mouthpiece.
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