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Old 02-07-2013, 08:52 PM   #1
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Re: Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

I vote we change the name to "Youoverbearingpoliticalcorrecttreehuggingpinheads cankissmyroyalassandgosuckeggsinacloset"
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:32 AM   #2
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I vote we change the name to "Youoverbearingpoliticalcorrecttreehuggingpinheads cankissmyroyalassandgosuckeggsinacloset"
Don't bring tree huggers into this.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #3
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Re: Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

Call me crazy, but I think the word Savage sounds more offensive/worse than the word Redskins.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:22 AM   #4
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What it all boils down to is INTENT. Is the name being used to intentionally to degrade a specific person or group of people? And that answer is NO. I doubt the NFL would have let any owner past or present use a name that was intended to degrade anyone or any group.

If anything its intent was to promote or give a positive light to a group of people. They should, instead of complaining, be proud and glad the American Indian is in such a spot light for the world to see.

But for those who seek change and would like DS to change the name so he would get even more money because EVERYONE would want the new Jersey with the new logo and name...... I suggest a slight name change so there is no major difference. I recommend the name "REDNECKS".

The colors can stay the same and most rednecks I know would be proud of the name on a professional team. Pick whatever logo works for that name. Lol.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:13 AM   #5
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What it all boils down to is INTENT. Is the name being used to intentionally to degrade a specific person or group of people? And that answer is NO. I doubt the NFL would have let any owner past or present use a name that was intended to degrade anyone or any group.

If anything its intent was to promote or give a positive light to a group of people. They should, instead of complaining, be proud and glad the American Indian is in such a spot light for the world to see.
Great point!

On CSN last night Brian Mitchell said that if the name is offensive to even ONE person it should be changed and I have to call BS on that. I'm not saying "Redskins" can't be used as an insult, but individual people are nuts and can be insulted by the dumbest crap!
I guarantee you could find a PETA member who finds any animal-based team name offensive because they think it exploits the animal for human entertainment.
I bet there are born again Christians who find any name with the words "Devil" or "Daemon" offensive because it invokes evil.
There are probably extreme pacifists and/or environmentalists who are offended by Jets and Rockets.
Hell, there are probably color-blind people who find color-based names offensive!
(okay, I've been watching too much Parks & Rec; this is turning into one of those town forum scenes)
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Great point!

On CSN last night Brian Mitchell said that if the name is offensive to even ONE person it should be changed and I have to call BS on that. I'm not saying "Redskins" can't be used as an insult, but individual people are nuts and can be insulted by the dumbest crap!
I guarantee you could find a PETA member who finds any animal-based team name offensive because they think it exploits the animal for human entertainment.
I bet there are born again Christians who find any name with the words "Devil" or "Daemon" offensive because it invokes evil.
There are probably extreme pacifists and/or environmentalists who are offended by Jets and Rockets.
Hell, there are probably color-blind people who find color-based names offensive!
(okay, I've been watching too much Parks & Rec; this is turning into one of those town forum scenes)


The name "Brian Mitchell" now offends me. I wonder what his new name will be?
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nevermind

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Re: Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

Go back to the R logo, which I like better anyway, and claim the Redskin name refers to potatoes. We don't need to have a potato logo. Packers is for meat packers, but you don't see a butcher as their mascot.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:30 AM   #9
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Re: Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

The thing is the Indian head (logo) has been such a great tradition. So if you can't beat them join them. If every Indian bought into the Redskins as being their team and said "it's awesome how the team is promoting Indians" this whole issue would be a different story. One would think the American Indians would be complaining that there are no other teams recognizing the Indian.

I've often wondered the same thing about the Rebel flag. The flag originally was not a negative symbol. It was a symbol to differentiate the North from the South and it was only used in battle. Later a bunch of racists adopted the flag and the sentament has changed about the flag. What would happen if Black Americans started flying the flag? wearing shirts with the flag on it? sported it more often? The whole conotation more then likely would change and those racist groups would not want to fly something their enemy is flying.
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This goes all the way to the top. Wait, Joe Biden!?!
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Put it in the bet book.
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Put it in the bet book.
Ok so let's get the time period straight, when does the 5 year window close? End of 2017?
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Ok so let's get the time period straight, when does the 5 year window close? End of 2017?
By the start of the 2018 season the name will be changed. By that I mean the 1st day of training camp.
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By the start of the 2018 season the name will be changed. By that I mean the 1st day of training camp.
Ok mark it down, I'll put it on my calendar
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Ok mark it down, I'll put it on my calendar
Odds that either of you won't remember this bet in 5 years, I'd put them at 50/50.
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