Secondary is a Primary

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Although this is a deep draft for secondary players, you can't tell me keeping Hall on the team is a bad thing if the contract is right.

Well, as some of you may know, I don't like DHall. He is inconsistent to the max. One week he shuts down Dez Bryant, another week he gets burned and abused by Boldin.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well, as some of you may know, I don't like DHall. He is inconsistent to the max. One week he shuts down Dez Bryant, another week he gets burned and abused by Boldin.

Not that I'm a D Hall apologist, because he does have his issues, but Boldin abused pretty much everyone he faced this past year. I think he was much better the second half of the season as well and can continue that moving forward as our secondary improves. It will take pressure of him to have to make all the big plays.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Not that I'm a D Hall apologist, because he does have his issues, but Boldin abused pretty much everyone he faced this past year. I think he was much better the second half of the season as well and can continue that moving forward as our secondary improves. It will take pressure of him to have to make all the big plays.

Ok, Boldin maybe wasn't a great example.

Use Mike Williams, Vikings WRs, Steelers WRs, Amendola, and so on as examples of him getting beat like a drum.

[Chico23231]

Hall played well down the stretch but was killed the first half of the season. Id cut Hall tomorrow and let him test the market. We cant afford to carry that cap number. If we do have him back, nothing more over 2.5 million for a 1 year deal.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hall played well down the stretch but was killed the first half of the season. Id cut Hall tomorrow and let him test the market. We cant afford to carry that cap number. If we do have him back, nothing more over 2.5 million for a 1 year deal.

Vet min, with a bonus if he slaps Dez Bryant again.

Definitely not worth the contract now. But hope we bring him back at a reasonable price, based on his contributions last season. Should be worth starter money, right?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by hailgreen28

vet min, with a bonus if he slaps dez bryant again.

definitely not worth the contract now. But hope we bring him back at a reasonable price, based on his contributions last season. Should be worth starter money, right?

lol

[skinsfaninok]

Wonder if hall would be a good option at safety?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Wonder if hall would be a good option at safety?

IMO you want your safety to be a much better tackler than DHall.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Lotus

IMO you want your safety to be a much better tackler than DHall.

I've posted the stats here before from PFF...Hall is one of the top-tackling safeties in football, so is Reed Doughty.

If Hall is true to his word and will stay for less money, I'd definitely keep him. If we can get our starting SS in Round 2 of the draft, we could use Hall at either nickel CB or starting FS. Hopefully Chase Minnifield or another FA or drafted rookie can be our other starting CB alongside Wilson.

Regardless, we need at least 2 new starters in the secondary, both safety spots. If we can get two outstanding safeties, we can keep Hall and Wilson at CB and be fine. If we can snag another great starting CB, moving Hall to FS is an attractive option to me. Anyway, we just need two starting safeties from somewhere...draft, FA or from moving Hall back there, which will only be possible if we get another quality CB.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I've posted the stats here before from PFF...Hall is one of the top-tackling safeties in football, so is Reed Doughty.

If Hall is true to his word and will stay for less money, I'd definitely keep him. If we can get our starting SS in Round 2 of the draft, we could use Hall at either nickel CB or starting FS. Hopefully Chase Minnifield or another FA or drafted rookie can be our other starting CB alongside Wilson.

Regardless, we need at least 2 new starters in the secondary, both safety spots. If we can get two outstanding safeties, we can keep Hall and Wilson at CB and be fine. If we can snag another great starting CB, moving Hall to FS is an attractive option to me. Anyway, we just need two starting safeties from somewhere...draft, FA or from moving Hall back there, which will only be possible if we get another quality CB.

Fair enough. I remember seeing stats that had Hall at the bottom in tackling. I've also seen Hall miss many makeable tackles. But I don't know where those stats I saw came from and I don't have time to look right now, so I will defer to your numbers and agree with you. As long as he can tackle, Hall should make a good safety.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I've posted the stats here before from PFF...Hall is one of the top-tackling safeties in football, so is Reed Doughty.

If Hall is true to his word and will stay for less money, I'd definitely keep him. If we can get our starting SS in Round 2 of the draft, we could use Hall at either nickel CB or starting FS. Hopefully Chase Minnifield or another FA or drafted rookie can be our other starting CB alongside Wilson.

Regardless, we need at least 2 new starters in the secondary, both safety spots. If we can get two outstanding safeties, we can keep Hall and Wilson at CB and be fine. If we can snag another great starting CB, moving Hall to FS is an attractive option to me. Anyway, we just need two starting safeties from somewhere...draft, FA or from moving Hall back there, which will only be possible if we get another quality CB.

Solid post. I wonder if FS can be solidified SS won't have to be addressed right away. Doughty played lights out toward the end of the season. Merriweather will come back for a minimal contract.
I'm just looking at overall team needs. RT has to be upgraded too, and we shouldn't skimp on that one. I'd like to think he's on our roster already but who knows. That guy needs to protect our passer well from day one.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Wonder if hall would be a good option at safety?

They took a look last year and if he was any good he could have easily taken either spot with all the injuries and bad play from that position. I think that experiment is over.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Lotus

IMO you want your safety to be a much better tackler than DHall.

Good point. I'd love to get a player that made an impact like woodson did in green bay but obviously Charles woodson doesn't walk through many teams doors often.

[Chico23231]

Not only could you get a starter at either safety position in the 2nd this year, but the 3rd round as well.

[MTK]

I can see us bringing him back if only because I doubt the market will have much interest in him. He seems to want to stay too.