Redskins 2013 Salary Cap Status

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I wonder what would have happened if the NFLPA said no we won't sign the agreement. Yeah the NFL threatened to reduce the CAP but by how much for each team? Also one would think the players would have been up in arms had the NFL came out after just getting over a hold out and said "Oops, sorry we have to lower the CAP." For what reason? I'd also think that would be a breach of the contract they just agreed to. NFL punishes the two teams there would be proof of collusion.

I think the NFLPA should have said no thank you and then said try to lower the CAP now less then 6 months after you agreed to pay the amount.

Dont come over to this section much and I realize that this is a week late. But the NFL cant lower the salary cap on the NFLPA, it is done by a formula that has been negotiated between the two. The salary cap was going down automatically due to the new CBA. What happened was the player percent of money went down due to the CBA having a smaller cut for the players. (Players money went from something like a 56% to 50% of overall money. Not sure of exact numbers).

IE.. These numbers arent real, just using easier than the real numbers to show the example. I also doubt the formula is this simple, im only using the basics of it.

Say the NFL makes 10 bil per year total. The players percentage is 60%. So they take 10 bil and divide by 60% giving 6 bil to the players. They then divide that by 32 teams, and thats the salary cap. 6 bil divided by 32 is the individual team cap, 187.5 mil per team. Say the new CBA drops the player share to 50%. So now we take 50% of 10 bil, or 5 bil for the players. Divide that by 32 and that is the new cap of 156.25 mil per team. Thats where the lowering of the cap comes from, the players getting a smaller percentage of the revenues than they had in the previous CBA without the revenues rising to make up for it.

Since the cap was going down, DeMaurice went to the NFL and asked if some future money could be moved from later years to this years cap to keep it from going down. The new TV agreements are already negotiated so the cap is expected to rise in 2015 or 2016 when those go into effect. When the NFLPA asked to have money moved forward, thats when Goodell and Mara hit the union with yes we will do that as long as you agree to the sanctioning of the teams we want. The union agreed.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Dont come over to this section much and I realize that this is a week late. But the NFL cant lower the salary cap on the NFLPA, it is done by a formula that has been negotiated between the two. The salary cap was going down automatically due to the new CBA. What happened was the player percent of money went down due to the CBA having a smaller cut for the players. (Players money went from something like a 56% to 50% of overall money. Not sure of exact numbers).

IE.. These numbers arent real, just using easier than the real numbers to show the example. I also doubt the formula is this simple, im only using the basics of it.

Say the NFL makes 10 bil per year total. The players percentage is 60%. So they take 10 bil and divide by 60% giving 6 bil to the players. They then divide that by 32 teams, and thats the salary cap. 6 bil divided by 32 is the individual team cap, 187.5 mil per team. Say the new CBA drops the player share to 50%. So now we take 50% of 10 bil, or 5 bil for the players. Divide that by 32 and that is the new cap of 156.25 mil per team. Thats where the lowering of the cap comes from, the players getting a smaller percentage of the revenues than they had in the previous CBA without the revenues rising to make up for it.

Since the cap was going down, DeMaurice went to the NFL and asked if some future money could be moved from later years to this years cap to keep it from going down. The new TV agreements are already negotiated so the cap is expected to rise in 2015 or 2016 when those go into effect. When the NFLPA asked to have money moved forward, thats when Goodell and Mara hit the union with yes we will do that as long as you agree to the sanctioning of the teams we want. The union agreed.

Good insight. Come over to this section more often!

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Dont come over to this section much and I realize that this is a week late. But the NFL cant lower the salary cap on the NFLPA, it is done by a formula that has been negotiated between the two. The salary cap was going down automatically due to the new CBA. What happened was the player percent of money went down due to the CBA having a smaller cut for the players. (Players money went from something like a 56% to 50% of overall money. Not sure of exact numbers).

IE.. These numbers arent real, just using easier than the real numbers to show the example. I also doubt the formula is this simple, im only using the basics of it.

Say the NFL makes 10 bil per year total. The players percentage is 60%. So they take 10 bil and divide by 60% giving 6 bil to the players. They then divide that by 32 teams, and thats the salary cap. 6 bil divided by 32 is the individual team cap, 187.5 mil per team. Say the new CBA drops the player share to 50%. So now we take 50% of 10 bil, or 5 bil for the players. Divide that by 32 and that is the new cap of 156.25 mil per team. Thats where the lowering of the cap comes from, the players getting a smaller percentage of the revenues than they had in the previous CBA without the revenues rising to make up for it.

Since the cap was going down, DeMaurice went to the NFL and asked if some future money could be moved from later years to this years cap to keep it from going down. The new TV agreements are already negotiated so the cap is expected to rise in 2015 or 2016 when those go into effect. When the NFLPA asked to have money moved forward, thats when Goodell and Mara hit the union with yes we will do that as long as you agree to the sanctioning of the teams we want. The union agreed.

Either that's not true or your math is wrong. Cap for this year is in the low 120's. I think I heard $122 mil.

edit:

Franchise tag numbers tentatively set; 2013 cap near $121M - NFL.com

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Either that's not true or your math is wrong. Cap for this year is in the low 120's. I think I heard $122 mil.

edit:

Franchise tag numbers tentatively set; 2013 cap near $121M - NFL.com

He said that he was using hypothetical numbers that made the math example easier. He was not speaking to the specifics of this year.

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Dont come over to this section much and I realize that this is a week late. But the NFL cant lower the salary cap on the NFLPA, it is done by a formula that has been negotiated between the two. The salary cap was going down automatically due to the new CBA. What happened was the player percent of money went down due to the CBA having a smaller cut for the players. (Players money went from something like a 56% to 50% of overall money. Not sure of exact numbers).

IE.. These numbers arent real, just using easier than the real numbers to show the example. I also doubt the formula is this simple, im only using the basics of it.

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[CrazyCanuck]

The old CBA numbers (from http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap...cap-101-a.html):

What is the salary cap?
- The salary cap is the max amount that NFL teams can spend on their players in a given year. In basic terms, the salary cap is set at 58% of total league revenues (TLR). To calculate the salary cap for an individual team the calculation would be: (TLR * 0.58) / 32 (teams). The salary cap for 2008 is $116M per team.

Is there a minimum salary cap?
- Yes. Each team must spend at least 85% of the salary cap on its players. This ensures that the players always receive at least 50% of the total revenue pie. So depending on how thrifty the owners are, the players will receive between 50% and 58% of total league revenues in any given year.

Here's a link to the major economic changes in the new CBA:

http://ht.cdn.turner.com/si/images/2..._Summary_7.pdf

The numbers are a little confusing, have to read through more but at first glance it seems like the 58%/50% numbers from the old CBA above have been changed to 55%/47%. Also the 85% min cap has been raised to 89%. Seems like the players are getting a smaller piece of a bigger pie, with some new benefits thrown in.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He said that he was using hypothetical numbers that made the math example easier. He was not speaking to the specifics of this year.

I conveniently missed that very important sentence. My bad. I don't think the NFLPA has been doing the players much good recently. Okay reduction in % players get, okay cap penalties on redskins and cowboys in an "uncapped year". D Smith must make the the players want Gene back badly.