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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He is ruining the game because he is worried too much about safety. Pretty soon it'll be two hand touch football or flag football with the ridiculous fines and penalties there are for illegal hits. (He created the Tom Brady rule; no hitting a QB anywhere near his legs, during or after the play.)

He made the rule change of kicking off from the 35 as opposed to the 30, causing way less kick returns.

He wants to widen the field.

He has eliminate touchdown celebrations that go 'over the top'.

He wants to make football an 18 game season (which contradicts the whole safety idea of his because he's making his players getting contacted more than less)

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head, but like I said and will stress again, he has fined players for RIDICULOUS things.
-Ryan Clark $5,000 for eyeblack of 21 in honor of Sean Taylor when he died
- Frank Gore $10,000 for not having high enough socks
- Plaxico Burress $5,000 for toss a football into the stands
- Antonio Brown fined $10,000 for running backwards while scoring a TD
- Urlacher fined $100,000 for wearing a vitamin water hat at super bowl media day
- Sheldon Brown fined $10,000 for wearing a Jason Mask during pregame/run out of the tunnel introductions

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Your second question why is Goodell over paid?

Well for starters, the NBA commission makes an ESPN reported $15-16 million/year. The MLBs commissioner makes $18 million per year. Goodell makes $29+ million/year. He should be making around what these other guys make. Baseball and Basketball have more games, yes. But one major difference between football and the other two sports is that the other two sports are more popular worldwide. And as for in this country and popularity, football is the most popular sport, but not enough to be a clear cut popularity choice over the other two sports. Its not like Goodell is doing a lot more than the other guys too. He's doing just as much as Selieg and Stern (and Bettman).

All sport commissioners are overpaid. These are guys who should be making $5 million annually max. If the president of the US is $400,000 a year, and Roger Goodell is making almost $30 million a year, America, we've got a problem.

I really don't need any more stats or facts about "Why do you think Goodell is overpaid?" Maybe I should be asking you, "Why do you think Goodell is worth a ridiculous sum of money?"

Some people need to learn how the NFL runs,it's by committee,Goodell is like a COO of a very,very sucsessfull company and gets paid that way.I don't mean to be rude but "wrecking the game becuase he is worried about safety",what the hell?.Former players are killing themselves and others are suing the NFL becuase they do too little about safty,the guy can't win.As for some of the fines that you mention ,no ,I don't agree with alot of them but others are well deserved,if he doesn't run it (the NFL) with an iron fist it will turn into the NBA,the hell with that.
You keep saying, he this and he that, ...THE COMPETITION COMMITTEE VOTES on any and all changes.Goodell didn't do it,Bidwell,Wilson,Jones,Lurie,Mara,Hunt,Snyder etc, all changed it!
All the other sports combined don't do what the NFL does,now while I agree with many of you it's becuase I just believe noone is is worth that money I understand business.I want them to let the players play the game my opinion,give all players lifetime healthcare.Nothing, and yes I mean nothing in the NFL is done by one man.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Some people need to learn how the NFL runs,it's by committee,Goodell is like a COO of a very,very sucsessfull company and gets paid that way.I don't mean to be rude but "wrecking the game becuase he is worried about safety",what the hell?.Former players are killing themselves and others are suing the NFL becuase they do too little about safty,the guy can't win.As for some of the fines that you mention ,no ,I don't agree with alot of them but others are well deserved,if he doesn't run it (the NFL) with an iron fist it will turn into the NBA,the hell with that.
You keep saying, he this and he that, ...THE COMPETITION COMMITTEE VOTES on any and all changes.Goodell didn't do it,Bidwell,Wilson,Jones,Lurie,Mara,Hunt,Snyder etc, all changed it!
All the other sports combined don't do what the NFL does,now while I agree with many of you it's becuase I just believe no one is is worth that money I understand business.I want them to let the players play the game my opinion,give all players lifetime healthcare.Nothing, and yes I mean nothing in the NFL is done by one man.

First, the whole committee. As the head of the committee, which Roger is, you are there to take the whole blame or the whole appraise or half and half, whatever. So us saying its Rogers fault is still the correct thing to do.

Example, the US government works by us citizens voting for whom we think is the right candidate with the right beliefs, by our choice. Assuming our president is elected, what ever our president does, its going to be ridiculed by the other party.

Think of the people/citizens as the NFL owners. Or think of the NFL owners as the senators who bring up different bills to vote on. An issue comes up the owners vote. Is the decision unanimous? Rarely. Theres always a few owners who don't vote with the crowd. Goodell gets the final vote and if it goes in his favor he announces it. If it doesn't that remains to be seen if he asks the committee to reconsider their vote or brings it to say, the NFLPA and asks them to vote and consider the situation and may say to the public "we couldn't come to an agreement."

The point is (if its too confusing above) like the president of the US your always going to have people that doubt his decisions or are pissed at him for what another majority of people had wanted when the finger of blame should be going at your opposing party as opposed to the president himself, but thats what the president is there for, to put in his input and take full credit or full blame, to be the voice of the people. But when we speak, we speak about the president as opposed to the democrats/republicans for example. Roger speaks for the owners, but know that he only needs 17 of the 32 owners to agree with him, and know that these ideas of ridiculousness come from not just the owners, but from him.

Now next point, you were asking about the how I said he's ruining the game by making it safer. Yes I still stand by it for a few reasons.
1) If you ask a lot of these football players, like the ones from the poor areas of the country where "football is the only way out of the area" they would tell you they would still do it again, going through and playing football, rather than still being in a poor/bad area. (I wish I remembered what article it was I read this in a year or two ago, or if this was on TV) Bottom line, football is a way out, and people would still take that way out, knowing the life consequences.

2) Your being paid millions to play a sport which you know a lot about, thus a "professional" football player. You should know the consequences of playing the sport and that with your millions of dollars, you are also going to be going through the pain. If the NFL ever comes to the point down the road of eliminating contact/tackling then these guys should be paid in the tens of thousands ($50,000). Their salary is reflecting, the consequences they know they're going to take doing their job.

3) For all the players that have come out and said they're seriously injured, thats a very small number to the other players in the NFL who have come out and said that they're fine or they can live with what they have suffered. Sure theres Duerson, Gleason, Seau, Jammal Lewis, OJ Berget (the ravens wheelchair guy) that have suffered major injuries or died from them, but for the few bad cases you hear every so often, there's a much much larger crowd of guys who are fine/healthy/can deal with their injuries. You hear some guys like Terry Bradshaw saying he suffers from short term memory loss. Sure football could have played a factor in that, but a lot of these guys who are complaining about being 'injured' by football are suffering from 'injuries' which occurs to a lot of us when we get older. When you hear a 60-70 year old former player saying "I have knee problems from playing football" well a lot of us have knee problems at that age. The NFL is taking some smart steps with teaching kids how to hit and finding new ways to prevent concussions. But they also go way overboard with helmet to helmet hits or ''hits to the head.'' If they tweaked the rule a little bit I wouldn't be mad, but they're keeping it so plain that they're enforcing stupid penalties.