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Old 02-17-2013, 06:39 PM   #1
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I would argue that players/fans have more means of communication than they did back Tagliabue's tenure as commissioner, so the complaints are more "visible". Still, if there were truly more complaints and the game was being "ruined" by Goodell (and the OWNERS), then this dissatisfaction would be seen in a drop in profits or TV ratings.



It is easier for the sports outlets to blame a single person, rather than a group of people. The way the news media focus on the President during tumultuous/prosperous times, rather than Congress for example.



The sports outlets are going to focus on the commissioner because he is an easy target. Also, the masses tend to have this infatuation with the owners and always seem to side with them knowingly or unknowingly. Example: when a player wants more money and wants a contract, the masses say "he is greedy, wants more money, he should shut up and play"; when a team (OWNER) cuts a player, the masses say: "that's a business minded decision".

Also, as I've said before, the decisions are made when a majority of the owners agree or disagree to something. I believe a lot of these decisions are made behind close doors, so it is easier to put the focus on the messenger.



I don't know much about business, but I imagine that NFL works in a similar way that a company has a board of trustees or stockholders; and has a CEO or COO to run things. And as I pointed out, a lot of these people get paid more than 30 mil a year.



Well, unlike Goodell, Matty IS a dictator. And if people don't hear from me ever again, now you know why.
Respectable answer. All I'll say in closing, is that whether you like him or not, these fines are ridiculous, and the ridiculous fines have been occuring when Goodell has been in power. Someone said its Ray Anderson, well whether it is all Ray or not at all Ray or partially ray, they need to less ridiculous and consistent!

Hopefully your joking about the Matty thing, because someone called Smootsmack an SS officer, which didn't go over well.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:03 PM   #2
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Respectable answer. All I'll say in closing, is that whether you like him or not, these fines are ridiculous, and the ridiculous fines have been occuring when Goodell has been in power. Someone said its Ray Anderson, well whether it is all Ray or not at all Ray or partially ray, they need to less ridiculous and consistent!

Hopefully your joking about the Matty thing, because someone called Smootsmack an SS officer, which didn't go over well.
Ironically, the fines you are complaining about fund the very things that you said RG's salary should go towards.

NFL Charities - Fundraising - Fine Money

And of course I am joking, Matty is a benevolent leader who reminded me of this by sending a shock of electricity through my laptop after my last comment.
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Ironically, the fines you are complaining about fund the very things that you said RG's salary should go towards.

NFL Charities - Fundraising - Fine Money

And of course I am joking, Matty is a benevolent leader who reminded me of this by sending a shock of electricity through my laptop after my last comment.

Interesting, I thought the fines went towards a charity of the player/coaches choice. (Which also made me want to ask, what if Ray Lewis got fined, could he have his fine money go towards his own charity?)

I'll also say that as much as I despise/hate Goodell, he isn't the worst commissioner. That honor goes to David Stern. And all I need is one example to show why:

Spurs Fined $250,000: David Stern Says Team Did 'Disservice To The League And Our Fans'
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I'll also say that as much as I despise/hate Goodell, he isn't the worst commissioner. That honor goes to David Stern. And all I need is one example to show why:

Spurs Fined $250,000: David Stern Says Team Did 'Disservice To The League And Our Fans'

Not sure why you pointed out this instance because he was actually right for doing this. It's very very rare when Mark Cuban agrees with David Stern, but even he agreed with it. Simply said that the TV deals are their cash cows and you cannot pull star players on games when their game is being televised nationally. He didn't have a problem with them resting, just not on a night when it was televised.

Mark Cuban agrees with David Stern's fine - SBNation.com

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The main reason why Cuban agreed is because television revenue is the NBA's biggest customer, so keeping them happy is in the best interest of the league.

"That is the driver for all things financial in sports. Period, end of story. We are not 10 years ago where TV is just another source of income. That is the money train. Period, end of story, no questions asked."

Even while backing the league, Cuban never denied the Mavericks wouldn't do the same thing as San Antonio did (and has done in the past). Even joking the NBA would fine him ten times more than the $250,000 it fined the Spurs.
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Not sure why you pointed out this instance because he was actually right for doing this. It's very very rare when Mark Cuban agrees with David Stern, but even he agreed with it. Simply said that the TV deals are their cash cows and you cannot pull star players on games when their game is being televised nationally. He didn't have a problem with them resting, just not on a night when it was televised.

Mark Cuban agrees with David Stern's fine - SBNation.com
Mark Cuban hates the Spurs, they have knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of times so anytime anything negative comes out against the Spurs, I am sure Cuban loves it no matter what, also the Spurs did not do anything wrong, they just rested their players after a tedious road trip (which is within the rules).

If you have a problem with the Spurs, then you cannot have a problem with the Salary Cap penalties that the Redskins took. The spurs did nothing against the rules (just like some would say the Skins or the Cowboys did nothing wrong), the "NBA" just did not like it. Goodell fined those times because it was not fair to the other teams in the NFL, hence being in the best interest for the NFL. If you have a problem with one, you cannot have a problem with the other. Just like when Stern denied a trade with the hornets and lakers, the trade was accepted by both teams but the trade was declined because it was not in the best interest of the NBA.

Stern is the worst commissioner, but Goodell is catching up. I like commissioners that do not make that much noise. You do not need to put your fingerprints on something that is already increasing in value every single year. With or without Goodell, the NFL would flourish. This is why I do not care much for Goodell. However, their main job is to make sure the games continue playing, and both of these men have failed at some point with that (both had lockouts). But Stern is the worst of the two, from fixed drafts to some extremely questionable refereeing in the NBA that seem to always benefit the bigger markets. But this is an NBA topic, not an NFL one.
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