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[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Does he mean like in the Seattle game? Ok...

Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Recovering from a 2nd knee reconstruction with an entire season in front of him is a different story, I think he's going to approach it a bit more wisely.

I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Good point Matty.

It all falls back to the mentality of football and of the football player. The coach is responsible for removing player x, but at what point? Hindsight is 20/20. If he miraculously led us back in that game at the end and afterwards we were told he won the game with torn knee ligaments he would be even more of an icon. QBs have done it before.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

He's not any different, and I never said I blame him. He's doing exactly what I would have done. I said I don't trust him concerning health issues.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

I think the big difference between older, HOF quarterbacks and Griffin is mobility. Favre was not a huge run threat like Griffin was. If he got hit and bruised it was in the pocket. With Griffin on the run it lends him to put himself in more vulnerable positions to get himself injured. Favre can flop in the pocket and get hit easier than Griffin can on the run in a full sprint.

The issue here is Griffin running and going for that little bit extra instead of sliding and being protected from hits because of rules against hitting sliding quarterbacks. If Griffin would have slid instead of getting lit up by Haloti Ngata, his knee may never have been an issue. He just has to make better decisions finishing runs. If his tweet about not jeopardizing his career is serious, he needs to start with finishing runs smarter.