Secondary is a Primary

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It seems unlikely to score a starting caliber FS in the 2nd round, yeah. Admittedly I don't follow college ball enough to say this guy or that won't be available etc, but FS is one of the toughest positions in football IMO.

Mike Mayock: Safety Johnathan Cyprien ‘makes a lot of sense’ for Redskins

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Mike Mayock: Safety Johnathan Cyprien ‘makes a lot of sense’ for Redskins

Lots of speculation there. It'd be great if he fell to us though.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Is there a consensus here on Hall's future with us?

Here's the thing with Hall.... his contract cannot be "restructured". A restructure is when a guy is gonna be on the team either way, and we rearrange the money to push more to the future. Trent Williams is a good example of a potential restructure.

There is 0% chance Hall comes back under his current contract, and we can release him for free (pretty much). So in other words Hall should be viewed as a free agent.

So the proper question is - should we bring in free agent DHall?

In this light I'm not sure I'd want him back. Not hating on DHall, but once we're bringing in a free agent I'd rather target youth. I suspect if Hall was coming from another team, no one would want us to take him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Here's the thing with Hall.... his contract cannot be "restructured". A restructure is when a guy is gonna be on the team either way, and we rearrange the money to push more to the future. Trent Williams is a good example of a potential restructure.

There is 0% chance Hall comes back under his current contract, and we can release him for free (pretty much). So in other words Hall should be viewed as a free agent.

So the proper question is - should we bring in free agent DHall?

In this light I'm not sure I'd want him back. Not hating on DHall, but once we're bringing in a free agent I'd rather target youth. I suspect if Hall was coming from another team, no one would want us to take him.

Good info.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Here's the thing with Hall.... his contract cannot be "restructured". A restructure is when a guy is gonna be on the team either way, and we rearrange the money to push more to the future. Trent Williams is a good example of a potential restructure.

There is 0% chance Hall comes back under his current contract, and we can release him for free (pretty much). So in other words Hall should be viewed as a free agent.

So the proper question is - should we bring in free agent DHall?

In this light I'm not sure I'd want him back. Not hating on DHall, but once we're bringing in a free agent I'd rather target youth. I suspect if Hall was coming from another team, no one would want us to take him.

It is good info. But Hall's experience in the system and ball-hawk skills should still make him a top prospect in FA, at CB or FS. I mean, it seems like a plus we have to release him and deal as a FA situation.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It is good info. But Hall's experience in the system and ball-hawk skills should still make him a top prospect in FA, at CB or FS. I mean, it seems like a plus we have to release him and deal as a FA situation.

Agreed. His athleticism and knowledge of the defense are the main things he has going for him.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Here's the thing with Hall.... his contract cannot be "restructured". A restructure is when a guy is gonna be on the team either way, and we rearrange the money to push more to the future. Trent Williams is a good example of a potential restructure.

There is 0% chance Hall comes back under his current contract, and we can release him for free (pretty much). So in other words Hall should be viewed as a free agent.

So the proper question is - should we bring in free agent DHall?

In this light I'm not sure I'd want him back. Not hating on DHall, but once we're bringing in a free agent I'd rather target youth. I suspect if Hall was coming from another team, no one would want us to take him.

If he's willing to tear up his contract and take less than I wouldn't have a problem with it. By less, I mean in the 3mil/yr range. He's not worth anything more than that. He should play for free since he's been overpaid the past 5-6 years. Paying top money but getting low level production.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If he's willing to tear up his contract and take less than I wouldn't have a problem with it. By less, I mean in the 3mil/yr range. He's not worth anything more than that. He should play for free since he's been overpaid the past 5-6 years. Paying top money but getting low level production.

Didn't we just discuss how DHall doesn't have a contract? There's nothing to tear up! Just read a couple of previous posts to connect to the thread if you want to make a comment... Sheesh.

In fact, I just re-read your post. It contributes nothing to the discussion unless the novel concept of a player playing for free catches on.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Didn't we just discuss how DHall doesn't have a contract? There's nothing to tear up! Just read a couple of previous posts to connect to the thread if you want to make a comment... Sheesh.

In fact, I just re-read your post. It contributes nothing to the discussion unless the novel concept of a player playing for free catches on.

He STILL has a contract as of right now so you are incorrect. HENCE the discussion of cutting him and bringing him back. He's not a UFA until he's cut. UNTIL that time, he's got a contract.

If nothing I said contributes to the discussion, than I suggest you put me on ignore and go on with your life. If you couldn't pull the point out of the post I made than I don't know what to tell you.

TL: DR - I'd take him back at around 2-3mil/yr.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

He STILL has a contract as of right now so you are incorrect. HENCE the discussion of cutting him and bringing him back. He's not a UFA until he's cut. UNTIL that time, he's got a contract.

If nothing I said contributes to the discussion, than I suggest you put me on ignore and go on with your life. If you couldn't pull the point out of the post I made than I don't know what to tell you.

TL: DR - I'd take him back at around 2-3mil/yr.

Well, not exactly. DHall may be still be under contract, but that contract doesn't include playing football for the Redskins in 2013 at this point... And we do not have to cut him to make him go away.

By the way, I would agree that he's worth the 2-3 million/yr. you suggest.

Must have been in a bad mood when I posted, sorry, I'll take your suggestion to put you on my ignore list under advisement though.