Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

ES member (huly) asking Goodell about capgate. Listen to his explanation. He said the owners AND the NFLPA were told about this "competitive balance". Riiiiiight. SO you are going to tell the NFLPA prior to the lockout that you are indeed going to collude even though there is no salary cap.

Right...there is about zero chance this is true...I mean I cannot conceive of this current NFLPA agreeing to any such thing. Why the hell would they? Makes less than zero sense.

[RedskinsInNYC]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Right...there is about zero chance this is true...I mean I cannot conceive of this current NFLPA agreeing to any such thing. Why the hell would they? Makes less than zero sense.

The hope is that this video, coupled with the threat of litigation, can continue to create buzz/noise on this issue for another day or two. I think Graziano RT'd someone who sent him this link last night. Will be interesting to see if other outlets pick this up - my hope is that they do.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Right...there is about zero chance this is true...I mean I cannot conceive of this current NFLPA agreeing to any such thing. Why the hell would they? Makes less than zero sense.

So ... the NFLPA knew of the collusive agreement to keep "competitive balance". Yet, during the bitter lockout in which the NFLPA argued collusion about several specific factors this was never mentioned. Further, once (and only once) it became public, the NFLPA filed a lawsuit alleging that this agreement about "competitive balance" was unknown to them and represented a breach of the prior CBA. Finally, the NFL's response was not "We told them, they knew about it so they shouldn't be upset"; it was "Hey too bad so sad, you waived all your claims - even the one you didn't know you had."

Wow. Revisionist history is one thing. This is "1984" un-person stuff.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

So ... the NFLPA knew of the collusive agreement to keep "competitive balance". Yet, during the bitter lockout in which the NFLPA argued collusion about several specific factors this was never mentioned. Further, once (and only once) it became public, the NFLPA filed a lawsuit alleging that this agreement about "competitive balance" was unknown to them and represented a breach of the prior CBA. Finally, the NFL's response was not "We told them, they knew about it so they shouldn't be upset"; it was "Hey too bad so sad, you waived all your claims - even the one you didn't know you had."

Wow. Revisionist history is one thing. This is "1984" un-person stuff.

Basically the NFL/Owners are back peddling and making stuff up. Lets look at it another way.... If there was an agreement between the NFL/NFLPA and the Skins reworked two players contracts then wouldn't it have been prudent for the NFL to simply deny the contracts and tell the Skins to rework them again because it goes against the "Spirit" of the uncapped year? Then no one would be docked CAP and those contracts could have been worked out another way.

No, in this case, the owners made an agreement amongst them selves to not spend in order to keep costs down, keep spending down when they were trying to tell the players that there was no money to work with, and to deny the contracts the Skins submitted would give the NFLPA proof that the owners had an agreement (collusion) with their knowledge. So the contracts were approved, CBA agreed to and signed, and because the owners were pissed that the Skins didn't go with the program they decided to punish two of their members for not playing along, but to do that they needed to black mail the NFLPA into thinking that if they didn't allow the punishment or sign the adendum to the CBA then they would lose money. and.... the only way for the NFLPA to get proof that there was collusion was for them to sign the agreement anyway. Then some judge (Dotty) denies all claims because ..... the NFLPA signed their rights away.

I think someone (big government) needs to keep the owners and Dotty in check.