Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Aren't you Fred Davis cousin? Is he coming back?

That guy's name was FredDavis something. I believe that was him or maybe that guy claimed to be his brother? Don't remember it seems like that guy hasn't been around in a while.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

That guy's name was FredDavis something. I believe that was him or maybe that guy claimed to be his brother? Don't remember it seems like that guy hasn't been around in a while.

Yeah, it was FredDavisBro.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Yep that's it.

[Skins4L]

He was solid but very disposable if not for the right price people. The PB was nice but if not for that we would still have him... with that his price went up is the problem.

[tc2deuce]

Fred Davis is a MUST re-sign!!

[skinsfaninok]

Boldin said he'd retire if he didn't get resigned by Baltimore, Ed Reed said last year he doesn't want to play for anyone but the ravens... Man Money is power lol

[InsaneBoost]

Lorenzo Alexander is a glorified special teams player. Sure he's nice to have in case someone gets injured because he can play multiple positions, but as said, starter material or in the rotation? Not really.

He'll get playing time now which is great for him, but I'm glad the Redskins didn't give him what they offered, let alone what the Cards gave him.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If it's true, that's pretty sad for the FO to treat someone like this who did and went beyond of what was asked of him. I suspect the agent came up with this story.

well he said they changed the offer Monday. so I could see that they did that as they neared the decision to keep Moss and Carriker instead of cutting them. If he doesn't understand the cap penalty part of it, oh well, Bottomline it was about money and that's his right, but don't try to put the skins down, if the 2.7 million was enough Monday he could have signed Sunday and gotten it. then we would have cut either Carriker or Moss or both.
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grantpaulsen tweeted that Zo understood:

Alexander was considering signing w/ #Redskins for smaller deal before they lowered guaranteed $ on MON night. Said theres no hard feelings.


bottomline you can count at least CB and ST captain as 2 positions directly impacted.by the cap penalty. keep that in mind as the season plays out.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Yep C.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

well he said they changed the offer Monday. so I could see that they did that as they neared the decision to keep Moss and Carriker instead of cutting them. If he doesn't understand the cap penalty part of it, oh well, Bottomline it was about money and that's his right, but don't try to put the skins down, if the 2.7 million was enough Monday he could have signed Sunday and gotten it. then we would have cut either Carriker or Moss or both.
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grantpaulsen tweeted that Zo understood:

Alexander was considering signing w/ #Redskins for smaller deal before they lowered guaranteed $ on MON night. Said theres no hard feelings.


bottomline you can count at least CB and ST captain as 2 positions directly impacted.by the cap penalty. keep that in mind as the season plays out.

Lorenzo Alexander: Arizona offered more guaranteed cash | WashingtonExaminer.com

Lorenzo Alexander: Decision to leave Redskins for Cardinals was both hard and easy

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Zo is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to say this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

So is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to day this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.

Makes sense but it could get worse and surely it will.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Makes sense but it could get worse and surely it will.

I don't think it has to. our secondary and safety play in particular were so bad last year, we are basically just trying a new crew. Some will step up, some won't, but I would be shocked if our young guys can't at least equal what was a pretty dismal performance. Also, if our dline and olb's stay healthy (always a question), the experience guys like Jenkins and Jackson got this year by more extended play, should let us see some solid improvements in the pressure we generate.

As was said, we kept our offense in place, so that should be a strength, and are going to have to go young at what was already an area in need of overhaul. I am pretty hopeful that next year won't see much of a decline in statistical performance, if any at all.

And I like my koolaid with ice, thanks!

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Zo is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to say this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.

It remains to be seen what happens. But as of now, we have to forget about Lorenzo Alexander. Hopefully Keenan Robinson or another inside linebacker will be able to replace Alexander, but now we must look to the draft. The Redskins might be able to sign a quality young ILB in free agency.

Maybe Chase Minnifield can prove his doubters wrong. Not saying he can step in for Hall, but Minnifield had first round talent coming out of Virginia. Whose to say he can't develop into an every down corner? Because he's coming off a knee injury, the odds are stacked against him. But I think he has what it takes to prove people wrong.

And you're right about this year's defensive backfield draft class. The positions of safety and corner are deep. I'm sure Bruce Allen will end up selecting a few rare talents.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

So is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to day this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.

your last paragraph sums it up nicely.