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Old 03-18-2013, 08:17 AM   #1
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I can almost guarantee that they will draft at least two defensive backs seeing as right now our only real starter is Josh Wilson, and it is not out of them realm of possibility that a 2nd or 3rd round rookie could start seeing that it happens all the time.
Simply put, your plan would be too risky. Do you want to take a chance on regressing from a 10-6 record and missing the playoffs this coming season? I don't.

The idea is to get better, not to rely on the chance that rookie CB (whoever that may be) can perform adequately at a starting CB spot. The worst (and possibly best) case scenario at this point might be to re-sign DHall. That way, we're probably no worse off at CB than we were last season.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:00 AM   #2
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no we can't rely on TJ, not really. I don't know that we have a choice though. dhall/winfield + davis seems like the best we can do in FA at this point, and drafted players are never reliable producers in year 1. (yes, you can get studs like griff or alfmo, but there's no guarantees anyone you pickup is going to produce on schedule/cue... otherwise hankerson would be our unquestioned #2 and moss would be retired right now).
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no we can't rely on TJ, not really. I don't know that we have a choice though. dhall/winfield + davis seems like the best we can do in FA at this point, and drafted players are never reliable producers in year 1. (yes, you can get studs like griff or alfmo, but there's no guarantees anyone you pickup is going to produce on schedule/cue... otherwise hankerson would be our unquestioned #2 and moss would be retired right now).
The redskins relied on a lot of free agents to start for them last year... Didnt really work out. I think free agents are as reliable as draft picks at this point.
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The redskins relied on a lot of free agents to start for them last year... Didnt really work out. I think free agents are as reliable as draft picks at this point.
True, although at least we weren't signing any of them on big money deals. If you spend $30 mil guaranteed for a starter and they suck, then that really screws you. We've just been bringing in a collection of cheap guys who all have the potential to step up and be a starter. At least I think that's their theory...
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[QUOTE=takethecake;999178]True, although at least we weren't signing any of them on big money deals. If you spend $30 mil guaranteed for a starter and they suck, then that really screws you. We've just been bringing in a collection of cheap guys who all have the potential to step up and be a starter. At least I think that's their theory...[/QUOTE]

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well, if irsay's taken cruz out of the NFC East... thanks! and my hat's off to that.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:24 AM   #7
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Is there any way to sign both Hall and Fred Davis to 3 year deals?
That would be great...keep in mind, we'd have to cope with Hall as a starter for 1 yr, but that is it, maybe move him elsewhere afterwards...unfortunately, he seems to only do well at CB with sideline help and isn't terrific in space...but I don't see many other good options.
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Right now the Secondary is set to struggle immensely(again) if we dont have a good draft. We need to draft at least 3 Secondary players...no less.

Depending on Minniefeld, Tanard Jackson is absolutely the worst idea ive heard on this board all year. Even thinking Brandon Merriweather can be counted on after major injuries last season is very naive.
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So why haven't we talked to Brent Grimes? He is a top 10 CB when healthy, he just came off an Achilles injury (so his money value goes down) and he's been on the market still after 5 days of FA (Value should go down again) I know we're tight with cap money, but I feel like he could just squeeze in there.

Also speaking of FAs coming off an Achilles injury. Why haven't we worked out a deal with Fred Davis? Whats the hold up? Is it still the cap. Fred had what one interested team (Cleveland?) and hasn't found it as a fit. He wants us and we want him. Lets make a deal Fred. This is getting ridiculous.
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So why haven't we talked to Brent Grimes? He is a top 10 CB when healthy, he just came off an Achilles injury (so his money value goes down) and he's been on the market still after 5 days of FA (Value should go down again) I know we're tight with cap money, but I feel like he could just squeeze in there.

Also speaking of FAs coming off an Achilles injury. Why haven't we worked out a deal with Fred Davis? Whats the hold up? Is it still the cap. Fred had what one interested team (Cleveland?) and hasn't found it as a fit. He wants us and we want him. Lets make a deal Fred. This is getting ridiculous.
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So why haven't we talked to Brent Grimes? He is a top 10 CB when healthy, he just came off an Achilles injury (so his money value goes down) and he's been on the market still after 5 days of FA (Value should go down again) I know we're tight with cap money, but I feel like he could just squeeze in there.

Also speaking of FAs coming off an Achilles injury. Why haven't we worked out a deal with Fred Davis? Whats the hold up? Is it still the cap. Fred had what one interested team (Cleveland?) and hasn't found it as a fit. He wants us and we want him. Lets make a deal Fred. This is getting ridiculous.
I hope Fred is not going to sign one of those 1 year deals that takes us right out of the market for him.
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So why haven't we talked to Brent Grimes? He is a top 10 CB when healthy, he just came off an Achilles injury (so his money value goes down) and he's been on the market still after 5 days of FA (Value should go down again) I know we're tight with cap money, but I feel like he could just squeeze in there.

Also speaking of FAs coming off an Achilles injury. Why haven't we worked out a deal with Fred Davis? Whats the hold up? Is it still the cap. Fred had what one interested team (Cleveland?) and hasn't found it as a fit. He wants us and we want him. Lets make a deal Fred. This is getting ridiculous.
I think the obvious answer is the cap restriction we have. Even with an injury and lasting this long in FA, he may want too much financially. We also don't know what extenuating circumstances there are about him that we don't know. Maybe his rehab isn't going well. If no one has signed him, including his former team, there may be a valid reason.

IDK what is up with Davis. I'm assuming it's just cap issues. I feel like at this point Davis really doesn't want to sign and go to a place like Cleveland, but doesn't want to take what the Skins are offering. Again all speculation. We may never know. Hope like hell we can resign Davis. That is my #1 priority/wish right now. Then I want D Hall back. And then I want a pony.
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So why haven't we talked to Brent Grimes? He is a top 10 CB when healthy, he just came off an Achilles injury (so his money value goes down) and he's been on the market still after 5 days of FA (Value should go down again) I know we're tight with cap money, but I feel like he could just squeeze in there.

Also speaking of FAs coming off an Achilles injury. Why haven't we worked out a deal with Fred Davis? Whats the hold up? Is it still the cap. Fred had what one interested team (Cleveland?) and hasn't found it as a fit. He wants us and we want him. Lets make a deal Fred. This is getting ridiculous.
Just as I suspected. Here is you answer.

@Rich_Campbell: No surprise here, but cap-strapped Redskins aren't pursuing free-agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha or Brent Grimes, per sources. Too expensive.
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Just as I suspected. Here is you answer.

@Rich_Campbell: No surprise here, but cap-strapped Redskins aren't pursuing free-agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha or Brent Grimes, per sources. Too expensive.
Yeah John Keim said that he doesn't really fit our defense. I guess I'll trust his scouting/sources/opinion. We don't need a Nnamdi Jr. type of situation here.
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Dear Chicken Littles,
Repeat after me, "We were a healthy RG3 away from kicking the crap out of Seattle, and that was without Orakpo, Carriker and Meriweather. We were a healthy RG3 away from kicking the crap out of Seattle, and that was without Orakpo, Carriker and Meriweather."

We'll be fine. More than fine.
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