The Season Is Over

[That Guy]

it'd be hard to go 8-2 with this schedule :/. it's like 2000 all over. hit the play-offs, get excited, go out and waste money on bad players while ditching draft picks for fear of them being icky. I mean, gibbs will probably go 4-0 in december (he always does), but the margin for error is so much lower than last year, and the schedule is harder.

chemistry matters, motivation matters, talent matters. I'm not sure we have any of the first two, or enough of the last one.


oh yeah, and the colts got a steal by turning a 2nd rounder into a top notch DT. that's what a good FO does. address their needs BEFORE they start creating problems costing them games. that's the same FO that drafted most of that colts team... hmm... drafting players... there's a thought.

maybe peyton will stub his toe and decide to sit this one out.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by That Guy

oh yeah, and the colts got a steal by turning a 2nd rounder into a top notch DT. that's what a good FO does. address their needs BEFORE they start creating problems costing them games. that's the same FO that drafted most of that colts team... hmm... drafting players... there's a thought.

Hate to say it, but the situation we have with the player-personnel decision making is similar to the Bengals before Marvin Lewis got there. As I understand it, there was one person who worked as a scout for Cincinnati, in addition to ancient workout rooms -- it turned out to be the tell-tale signs of a dysfunctional franchise. Now make no mistake, Snyder and Cooke before him spared no expense to have top-notch training facilities and to furnish the team and its headquarters with whatever they wanted. That's not what I'm talking about.

The archaic situation during the days of gloom in Cincinnati is a mirror image of this team and its current structure for evaluating talent and player acquisition. That is to say, it consists of Dan Snyder's wishes, and the limits of his bank account.

And this is something I thought would surely change once Joe Gibbs restored order to this franchise. Instead, he bought into this notion hook, line, and sinker -- that whatever problem this team faces can be solved by the movement of Dan Snyder's pen to his checkbook. Instead of well-reasoned, astute observations and studies by a football professionals who know what they're doing, we get recklessness, and the throwing of free agent heymakers, hoping one of them will hit.

Until that structure changes, this team will never succeed. And as That Guy said, there's going to be more 2000-like seasons to come.

[chris36]

Sorry buddy, but I had to tell myself the same thing I told you. Look, many owner could care less if they win or lose. We have an owner that will do anything he can to bring us a winner.. Although he has not, I love him for trying. I am sure he will get it right someday. There are many teams in pro sports that dont care.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by chris36

Sorry buddy, but I had to tell myself the same thing I told you. Look, many owner could care less if they win or lose. We have an owner that will do anything he can to bring us a winner.. Although he has not, I love him for trying. I am sure he will get it right someday. There are many teams in pro sports that dont care.

The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.

But the funny thing is he's managed to make the Redskins the most profitable franchise in all of sports despite the fact the team has made the playoffs only twice since he's owned the team.

Now that's a salesman!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

But the funny thing is he's managed to make the Redskins the most profitable franchise in all of sports despite the fact the team has made the playoffs only twice since he's owned the team.

Now that's a salesman!

I completely agree that he is probably one of the best salesman in the world. Being an aspiring business owner myself, I actually admire his marketing savvy. But as the owner of our beloved Washington Redskins, I despise him.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.

I take it Snyder confided in you his true motivations for being the owner of the Redskins?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.

true dat.

[hesscl34]

I wish I could think about all of this, read these posts, and stop shaking my head in disbelief. I just can't figure it out. How we went from such a high at the end last year... to this! Do the injuries really play such a huge role for us? We've seen darker days and still dug our way out of it. I wish I could feel the hope I once had....

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I wish I could think about all of this, read these posts, and stop shaking my head in disbelief. I just can't figure it out. How we went from such a high at the end last year... to this! Do the injuries really play such a huge role for us? We've seen darker days and still dug our way out of it. I wish I could feel the hope I once had....

Because the "high", that 6-0 run at the end last year was an abberation. Gibbs is 19-21 since he came back. He took over a team that was below average, and so far, has made them just barely average.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Because the "high", that 6-0 run at the end last year was an abberation. Gibbs is 19-21 since he came back. He took over a team that was below average, and so far, has made them just barely average.

.. hm. Maybe. But I still think out TEAM was a real TEAM last year and if we could get that back (that attitude), we could turn things around.

[The Zimmermans]

Everyone knows that it is time to rebuild. We had a promising defense last year, and anyone in their right mind should realize that it is easier to improve your strengths than your weaknesses. Our concern should've been maintaining and improving a solid defense. A solid defense provides for more possessions and more opportunities to improve a work in progress offense. Too bad we let our young talent leave (Arrington, Clark, Pierce), and brought in old stubborn free agents who have lost under poor defensive schemes for years (Carter, Rumph, Archuleta, and now vincent....all slow players) Last year was very exciting, and made me a happier person overall, however, it represented the death of us this year. I dunno if i can handle watching brunell for another game, imagine how effective our running game could be with any other QB.

As long as Dan Snyder holds this power, we will never win a superbowl

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Everyone knows that it is time to rebuild. We had a promising defense last year, and anyone in their right mind should realize that it is easier to improve your strengths than your weaknesses. Our concern should've been maintaining and improving a solid defense. A solid defense provides for more possessions and more opportunities to improve a work in progress offense. Too bad we let our young talent leave (Arrington, Clark, Pierce), and brought in old stubborn free agents who have lost under poor defensive schemes for years (Carter, Rumph, Archuleta, and now vincent....all slow players) Last year was very exciting, and made me a happier person overall, however, it represented the death of us this year. I dunno if i can handle watching brunell for another game, imagine how effective our running game could be with any other QB.

As long as Dan Snyder holds this power, we will never win a superbowl

Yep. I've said even during the good defensive years that the D needed an overhaul. Last year, the Cowboys were perfect examples. They spent their two first round draft choices on the front seven, with Demarcus Ware and Marcus Spears, then went out and selected Chris Canty (DE, UVa) in the 4th round just to be sure.

It all starts up front, for the offense and defense. Snyderatto haven't learned that yet, and I'm not sure they ever will.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I wish I could think about all of this, read these posts, and stop shaking my head in disbelief. I just can't figure it out. How we went from such a high at the end last year... to this! Do the injuries really play such a huge role for us? We've seen darker days and still dug our way out of it. I wish I could feel the hope I once had....

injuries, loss of underappreciated players defense, new unfamiliar players on defense, new, complicated offense to master, and frankly, i suspect, age. the difference between 35 and 36 (especially at QB) is not the same between 25 and 26..

[The Zimmermans]

Yeah, I wish Snyder had some sort of football knowledge. Why are all of our free agent signings from the worst defenses in the past 5 years, even marcus washington came from the COLTS (even though he turned out great) they were a horrid defense. It's one thing to sign free agents, it's another to sign free agents that came from bad systems.

Why sign a slow archuleta when you already have a slow taylor back there?