Thoughts on Skins vs Titans

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess it's something you'll never be happy with because he's just not going to ever have a lightening quick release. His throwing motion is what it is. I thought his release has been improved enough, he's holding the ball higher in his drop back and the hitch is less pronounced this year, but in the end you can't completely change his motion, especially when it's not a huge issue to begin with. I think his long arms also give the illusion of a slower motion.

I agree that he will never have a Dan Marino type release. I think this is a bigger issue than people think because when teams will start swiping at the ball (especially if this O line does not get its act together by week 1) while its hanging out there and that can create turnovers. I hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree that he will never have a Dan Marino type release. I think this is a bigger issue than people think because when teams will start swiping at the ball (especially if this O line does not get its act together by week 1) while its hanging out there and that can create turnovers. I hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

I don't think he'll have a problem with defenses knocking down his passes at all. Campbell is a pretty tall guy, so he'll be able to see and deliver the ball over most Dlineman. Also, he doesn't sling the ball sideways or cock from the hip, so I don't see that being an issue.

[irish]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't think he'll have a problem with defenses knocking down his passes at all. Campbell is a pretty tall guy, so he'll be able to see and deliver the ball over most Dlineman. Also, he doesn't sling the ball sideways or cock from the hip, so I don't see that being an issue.

I am not talking about batted passes, I 'm talking about the ball being swatted from his hand because he has to bring the ball so far back to throw it.

Marino held the ball up by his ear and flicked it, JC cant do that. JC has to bring his arm back to throw and on Sat night it looked like that ball was sitting there for the taking.

[firstdown]

To me it looked likt two teams playing their first preseason games. I'll reserve comments until after a couple of more preseason games. I will say that D lineman (not sure who it was) who hit the QB instead of going after the ball was the best play of the night and was a very heads up play. I know that the snap was rolling back to the QB but if it had been a good snap he would have been in the guys face anyways.

[Cowell]

I have to say though I was pleasantly surprised when I saw Todd Collins accurately throw the ball. Not just little screen passes he had that one 20+ yard pass.

[BDBohnzie]

I watched pretty much the whole game (got caught in the line at Chipotle trying to get dinner for me and the misses), and have to say...Chris Samuels better be ready for Game 1, or Jason Taylor will line up over Heyer/Fabini/Gap Player and flat out destroy Jason Campbell...all damn day. The line seems a bit lost without him. The plays JC made looked solid, but he needs to learn to get rid of the ball a bit quicker.

The defense looked pretty good against an aging backup QB and average RBs and WRs. I'm hoping it's a picture of what's to come, however I'll wait and see. Fletcher was all over the place, and the secondary looked pretty good, but I'm not going to get my hopes up just yet.

It's a good thing there are 3 more games, because if it were decided today, I'd imagine Collins being #2 over Brunell. Brunell looked plain horrible, and while Collins was playing against 3rd and 4th string Ds, he looked solid doing so. I wonder if they are starting to regret letting Bramlet go...or if Palmer looks like someone they can mold on the Practice Squad.

[MTK]

I see the usual bitching about Brunell but I honestly don't see where he was all that bad. They moved the ball a bit while he was in there, and at that point he was playing with scrubs.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think he would have been better had he not been getting crushed on EVERY third down.

[Monkeydad]

Yaaay! Todd Collins was 5/5 against the defensive guys that won't make the team! He's our backup for the future.


Don't overreact guys.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yaaay! Todd Collins was 5/5 against the defensive guys that won't make the team! He's our backup for the future.


Don't overreact guys.

But that is what preseason and preseason discussion is all about!
(do you understand why I don't watch preseason now?)

[Cowell]

Look I would love to see our quarterbacks throw 60% and complete between the 8-15 yard range because it's an easier throw and it's either a first down or very close. That with a better than average running game which we should have will march our offense down the field all day.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yaaay! Todd Collins was 5/5 against the defensive guys that won't make the team! He's our backup for the future.


Don't overreact guys.

No matter what Collins does he can't get a break. Give the guy some credit. He looked sharp. He can't help it who is on the field when he gets in the game.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No matter what Collins does he can't get a break. Give the guy some credit. He looked sharp. He can't help it who is on the field when he gets in the game.

Seriously. I mean have people forgotten he's throwing to the likes of Jason McAddley and Carl Berman?

I'm still torn on whether he should be our 3rd stringer or Palmer, but Collins isn't terrible.

[That Guy]

TYT has the game up now, so i'll be able to watch, even if i'm a bit late to the party :/

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

collins as of right now is light years ahead of Brunell.