Jerome Mathis signed

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I totally agree. I would have paid DJ Hackett a couple million a year, personally. I don't know how you can pass on a sizeable WR who has shown the ability to take over games when healthy and who is familiar with Zorn's offense. It's one thing if the Panthers gave him $8 million to sign or something. But I mean, what the hell?

On the other hand, how many coaches out there know him better than Zorn? And if he didn't make a huge push for Hackett did we really miss out?

That said, I would have also taken a chance on Hackett for such a relatively small sum.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On the other hand, how many coaches out there know him better than Zorn? And if he didn't make a huge push for Hackett did we really miss out?

That said, I would have also taken a chance on Hackett for such a relatively small sum.

That's the only thing that makes this non-move not so painful. If Zorn didn't want him that bad, perhaps there's a very good reason why we passed on him.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On the other hand, how many coaches out there know him better than Zorn? And if he didn't make a huge push for Hackett did we really miss out?

That said, I would have also taken a chance on Hackett for such a relatively small sum.

You're right, maybe Zorn knows something. But I can't imagine what that would be given that Hackett recently put up over 100 yards and a TD on our secondary in the playoff game against Seattle last year.

I mean how much can you "know" about a guy? At some point, doesn't performance say everything that needs to be said about a guy? I guess that's my thing, it's one thing if a coach is weighing in about an unproven commodity. But Hackett has taken over games before. As long as he's not a malcontent, then go get him.

Who knows, maybe he was a malcontent in Seattle. And if that's the case, good job in passing on him. Of course, at the same time, WTF are we doing passing on Hackett for being a malcontent and then turning around and signing Mathis? That makes no sense. So if you're not concerned about Mathis being trouble, you couldn't have been concerned about Hackett being trouble. You just flat out dropped the ball and didn't bring him in for a good price.

[MTK]

Yeah when I saw that I was like shoot, couldn't we have given him $1M to sign and maybe $4M to $5M over 2 years?

I would have felt pretty good about our WR situation then and we could have addressed other needs in the draft. Now it seems pretty clear that we'll use a pick on a WR at some point in the draft.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah when I saw that I was like shoot, couldn't we have given him $1M to sign and maybe $4M to $5M over 2 years?

I would have felt pretty good about our WR situation then and we could have addressed other needs in the draft. Now it seems pretty clear that we'll use a pick on a WR at some point in the draft.

Yeah and I can't say I mind that approach. And in general, the team's fiscal restraint is admirable. But it's almost like we've gone from blindly writing checks to blindly passing on all free agents.

I realize I'm oversimplifying. But passing on Hackett at that price didn't make a lot of sense. Yes he's been hurt some. But to my knowledge, he's not hurt now. He knows the offense. He's a decent size. And he cost as much as Pete Kendall. Pete Kendall, people. For a guy that has put up several 100 yard games, and if he can stay on the field, could put up a 1000 yard season.

Seems we could have 3 solid WR heading into the draft. We would have gotten the perfect #2 option, allowing ARE to move into the slot. Then we could have gone for the offensive and defensive lines in the first three rounds, maybe a S, maybe a CB. We would have been better off.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I realize I'm oversimplifying. But passing on Hackett at that price didn't make a lot of sense. Yes he's been hurt some. But to my knowledge, he's not hurt now. He knows the offense. He's a decent size. And he cost as much as Pete Kendall. Pete Kendall, people. For a guy that has put up several 100 yard games, and if he can stay on the field, could put up a 1000 yard season.

Seems we could have 3 solid WR heading into the draft. We would have gotten the perfect #2 option, allowing ARE to move into the slot. Then we could have gone for the offensive and defensive lines in the first three rounds, maybe a S, maybe a CB. We would have been better off.

I agree with you and was a proponent of getting Hackett. After we passed on him, my thoughts were the same as SS's, "Zorn and Seattle must know something". Seattle could've made a push for him too. He has been injured before this year, maybe they don't have faith in him holding up. Maybe they have someone else targeted (June 1 cut / trade). This will be one of the first decisions we can judge Cerrato & Zorn on depending which way it goes.

[jsarno]

Enough about Hackett already, he has shown up in entirely too many threads for no good reason. It's not like he's a stud or anything, he still has a TON to prove.
Let it go...and let's embrace whoever the Skins draft at WR.

[hooskins]

Jerome Mathis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

link has two run ins with the law (beating and dog issue) but doesn't have the fight Js

[Dirtbag59]

I will say this, and I know I already promised OaklandRed that I would give him a second chance, but the fact is if the Cowboy's sign this guy, almost everyone here starts laughing and making fun of the Cowboys. I will admit that I didn't think of that on my own but given our reaction to the Cowboy's going after Pacman, I'd say it's probably a fair assumtion.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

[SmootSmack]

I thought in light of everything we've been discussing with CJ, Pacman, Henry, and now Mathis these comments by Cerrato stood out

"Instead of just adding a couple of guys this time, we need [a draft] where we're adding quantity and quality guys. We need talented guys that can initially play a role and have the potential to become starters. And the biggest thing you need is good people."

washingtonpost.com

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought in light of everything we've been discussing with CJ, Pacman, Henry, and now Mathis these comments by Cerrato stood out

"Instead of just adding a couple of guys this time, we need [a draft] where we're adding quantity and quality guys. We need talented guys that can initially play a role and have the potential to become starters. And the biggest thing you need is good people."

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Hey for all we know maybe after meeting with Mathis Vinny and co. were satisfied that he's not a bad egg and his legal issues are behind him. I sure hope so. As someone pointed out earlier he's still a young guy who could turn it around, so who knows.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hey for all we know maybe after meeting with Mathis Vinny and co. were satisfied that he's not a bad egg and his legal issues are behind him. I sure hope so. As someone pointed out earlier he's still a young guy who could turn it around, so who knows.

I'm a "character counts" kind of guy and I'm highly skeptical that Mathis will turn things around, but it sounds like there is little downside to getting the guy. If he f's up, he's gone and we'll suffer no adverse cap consequences.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought in light of everything we've been discussing with CJ, Pacman, Henry, and now Mathis these comments by Cerrato stood out

"Instead of just adding a couple of guys this time, we need [a draft] where we're adding quantity and quality guys. We need talented guys that can initially play a role and have the potential to become starters. And the biggest thing you need is good people."

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

Yeah, I thought about that early. Kinda ironic.

[SmootSmack]

Redskins give Mathis 'last chance' - - Breaking News, Political News & National Security News - The Washington Times

An NFL source agreed, saying: "If the kid can stay healthy, he's a weapon. At a minimum salary [deal], what do the Redskins have to lose?"

Perhaps some tarnishing of what former coach Joe Gibbs would call their good name, something owner Dan Snyder claims to treasure. But Texans general manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak at last week's NFL meetings assured Cerrato that Mathis isn't big trouble.

"They both said that Jerome's a good person who just needs a fresh start," Cerrato said.

Said Mathis: "I made some mistakes in my younger days, but I'm a different person. I'm not looking at Washington as a second chance. It's more like my last chance."