Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

I hope he enjoys playing here and stays for a few years. A 2nd & 6th round pick is a lot for one last hurrah from JT.

I think you paid to much.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Stop the presses, if irish is on board then I really feel good about this move!

LOL

It all depends on his frame of mind about football. They also got a guy a lot closer to his prime than Buce Smith or Past His Prime Time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

anybody know of any good Dolphins boards? I'm curious what their fans' perspective is on this trade. Do they think "thank God, somebody actually gave us a 2nd for this guy" or is it more of a "I can't believe they got rid of Taylor?"

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I think their fans are split. Some think he was worth more than a 2nd, while some are just happy it's over and they got something of value for him since the writing was on the wall that Parcells wanted him gone. Overall though you can't be happy to lose a guy of his caliber and someone that meant so much to them for so long.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I think you paid to much.

All depends on how Taylor performs. If he puts up 10+ sacks two seasons in a row, and generates an additional 3 or 4 turnovers that we otherwise probably wouldn't have generated, I'd gladly give up a 2nd.

If he stinks, then yeah, it was too much.

But what are the chances that Jason Taylor, of all people, will stink this year? Low. I'll take it.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think he is a top 5 defensive player right now. In 06 yes, but not now.He's going to be 34 soon. I hope I'm wrong.

I don't think he'll be a top 5 either but not because of age. Last year, at age 33) he had 11 sacks, 1 INT and a TD. Not too shabby for a decrepit old geezer.

[TheSmurfs22]

When I signed on yesterday and saw that Jason Taylor had been traded I did not think it would be to the Redskins. Once I opened the link to the story I was pleasantly surprised. I am not jazzed that we gave up a second rounder but the Skins had to act quick considering the events of yesterday. I applaud them for that and for getting Taylor in early enough that he has time to work with the defensive unit.

[hesscl34]

6'6 255lbs.... good grief! I thought Andre Carter was big!!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

LOL

It all depends on his frame of mind about football. They also got a guy a lot closer to his prime than Buce Smith or Past His Prime Time.

True. I'm thinking that with a new team and one that should be in the playoff hunt he will be re-energized and eager to prove to Parcells that he made a big mistake.

The guy has always played with a very high motor. I'm not too concerned about him coming here and rolling over.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

I highly doubt if his being on Dancing With The Stars is any indication of his dedication to football. This is guy who hasn't missed a start in about 10 years. Trust me, he'll be on point come September.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

Well, when your team has only won ONE game all season long and is considered a laughing stock... then why not boost your career in any way that you can? Maybe it wasn't the best call, but it sure got him noticed and put his name on the map, and not just for his football. I really don't blame the guy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

Not sure why you are so hung up on what he did during his offseason but let's look at what he's done on the field. I think that speaks for itself.

The dancing thing is long over, he's going to show up ready to roll. He's always kept himself in great shape, there's a good reason why he's still such a high performer at his age.

[724Skinsfan]

From the Sporting News article (you might want to get a Kleenex before reading:

2. Jason Taylor, Washington Redskins: Taylor will continue to be a force with his new team in 2008. He has played in numerous schemes, handling a multitude of responsibilities. The NFL's defensive player of the year a mere two seasons ago, Taylor is best known for his pass rush. But he is a gifted and versatile athlete who continues to show great quickness and athleticism late in his career, and plays with the motor of an undrafted rookie.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

Its a building process thats why players lift weights, run, do yoga, stretch, etc. It all helps a player be more physically fit which in turn helps them play better football and round themselves into "football shape".

If a guy goes fishing or golfing in the offseason it doesnt mean they are not 100% into football. Everyone needs a mental and physical break.

[skinsnut]

Here are my thoughts

1. We paid too much with a 2nd and a 6th....I dont know what that amounts too by draft points...but its probably close to a low 1st for 2 years max.

2. The other problem with giving up a 1st day pick is this....that was the pick we needed for a long term DE...yes, you can say we can do this with our 1st...but cmon....we need a CB and those go high...we also need DT and Oline pretty bad...not to mention LB's.

3. I am now concerned about running D...Daniels was no sack master...but he sure did well against the run....perhaps evans can help out but do you really want AC or JT on the bench?....what we need now is a STUD DT and a solid OLB to cover for Griffen and Rocky....to me...the needs just went up there.

4. Looking back a couple years, we had ZERO pass rushing...then we got AC...who initially looked weak.....now....we have 4 pass rushing specialists at the DE position (Carter, Taylor, Wilson, EJames, not to mention MWashington at LB)
This means our weakness is now stopping the run...we will have to do that with DT's and LB's almost exclusively....say what you want about Daniels...but he played DT and DE....and that is a great 2 for 1 deal...we still need to replace him.

5 This one really pisses me off.....our training staff.....last year we lost tons of guys for cramps and muscle pulls...injuries attributable to hydration and stretching.....NOW we lose 2 guys that arguably could have been avoided if they were loosened up more.
I dont blame the training staff....but...this is definately a trend that has not stopped which almost killed our season last year.

6 I love the fact that JT did that dancing thing....why? because he is flexible and has zero body fat...that means he's fit and unlikely to suffer bogus "freak" non contact injuries.

Even though the cons include a weaker run d and a loss of a very valuable 2nd rounder, I hesitantly approve due to the fact that there was NO ALTERNATIVE.
But I am still pissed at the training staff for sucking so bad.