Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

People are saying ridiculous things like "what kind of leader goes off dancing....he should be helping his 1-15 team to get better." When dancing with the stars was being filmed there wasn't any team organized training or team organized events that Taylor was somehow skipping out on. If he had been working out at the Dolphins facility at the time, there probably wouldn't have even been anyone else there.

To the contrary, there were several OTA's taking place that he missed. Albiet all were voluntary.

When your highest tenured team leader put's positioning his post-football career over his teams improvement, it just sends the wrong message. When your team is 1-15, those "voluntary" OTA's take on more meaning than if the team was 11-5.

Again, I believe to a certain degree that both parties share blame in the fall-out in Miami.

1.) Parcells needs to relax his sphincter a bit
2.) For Taylor, there are better times to pursue off-seeason commitments outside of football then when your team is 1-15.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

To the contrary, there were several OTA's taking place that he missed. Albiet all were voluntary.

When your highest tenured team leader put's positioning his post-football career over his teams improvement, it just sends the wrong message. When your team is 1-15, those "voluntary" OTA's take on more meaning than if the team was 11-5.

Again, I believe to a certain degree that both parties share blame in the fall-out in Miami.

1.) Parcells needs to relax his sphincter a bit
2.) For Taylor, there are better times to pursue off-seeason commitments outside of football then when your team is 1-15.

Unless voluntary suddenly means mandatory then I don't know what the big deal is.

I have a feeling that regardless of what JT did, Parcells was going to look to push him out. Dancing with the stars was a very convenient excuse.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Unless voluntary suddenly means mandatory then I don't know what the big deal is.

I have a feeling that regardless of what JT did, Parcells was going to look to push him out. Dancing with the stars was a very convenient excuse.

Everyone knows they are called voluntary but in reality you gotta be there. I do agree that Parcells had it in for JT and the dancing stuff made a good excuse.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

2.) For Taylor, there are better times to pursue off-seeason commitments outside of football then when your team is 1-15.

Jason Taylor was not the problem with Miami, he was not responsible for turning their ship around. Hell, he was one of the only players who played well last season.

[irish]

The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.

Stop the presses, if irish is on board then I really feel good about this move!

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Stop the presses, if irish is on board then I really feel good about this move!

LOL

It all depends on his frame of mind about football. They also got a guy a lot closer to his prime than Buce Smith or Past His Prime Time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

LOL

It all depends on his frame of mind about football. They also got a guy a lot closer to his prime than Buce Smith or Past His Prime Time.

True. I'm thinking that with a new team and one that should be in the playoff hunt he will be re-energized and eager to prove to Parcells that he made a big mistake.

The guy has always played with a very high motor. I'm not too concerned about him coming here and rolling over.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

I highly doubt if his being on Dancing With The Stars is any indication of his dedication to football. This is guy who hasn't missed a start in about 10 years. Trust me, he'll be on point come September.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

Well, when your team has only won ONE game all season long and is considered a laughing stock... then why not boost your career in any way that you can? Maybe it wasn't the best call, but it sure got him noticed and put his name on the map, and not just for his football. I really don't blame the guy.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Well, when your team has only won ONE game all season long and is considered a laughing stock... then why not boost your career in any way that you can? Maybe it wasn't the best call, but it sure got him noticed and put his name on the map, and not just for his football. I really don't blame the guy.

I just feel Taylor is more concerned about his Hollywood career. Maybe I'm worng. Maybe playing on a 1-15 team will make you think about other things. I don't know. But I do know giving up a high draft pick for a guy that may play one more yeat isn't a smart thing to do. What if we go 5-11? Then what? He could just walk and the trade is a total bust. I guess I always think of the worse case scenario.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

Not sure why you are so hung up on what he did during his offseason but let's look at what he's done on the field. I think that speaks for itself.

The dancing thing is long over, he's going to show up ready to roll. He's always kept himself in great shape, there's a good reason why he's still such a high performer at his age.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure why you are so hung up on what he did during his offseason but let's look at what he's done on the field. I think that speaks for itself.

The dancing thing is long over, he's going to show up ready to roll. He's always kept himself in great shape, there's a good reason why he's still such a high performer at his age.

I just think it's a selfish thing to do while your teammates are woking out. But like I said, I hope it works out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure why you are so hung up on what he did during his offseason but let's look at what he's done on the field. I think that speaks for itself.

The dancing thing is long over, he's going to show up ready to roll. He's always kept himself in great shape, there's a good reason why he's still such a high performer at his age.

As it turns out he wasn't ready to roll and had a bad pre season...even before he got hurt.