What's Wrong with the Redskins?

[hagams]

We can't blame Jason for all of the problems. Today we got manhandled, punched in the mouth, and had dirt kicked in our eye. After that they told "your mamma" jokes about us while eating candy they bought with our lunch money.

The Offensive line couldn't keep 4 guys from getting pressure on us. The DB's were playing decent, but kinda on their own sheet of music. LB's and D-line did a good job in the first Qtr, but got complacent after that. Our WR's were dropping balls that were tagging their chests. Our running game.....Oh wait, we didn't have one. Portis should have been pulled out of the game in the end of the 3rd. Not because of his play, but because we weren't getting anywhere with him in or out. Why risk further injury when we are not running the ball well?

We were outplayed today by a better football team. We were out coached by a better coaching staff. And on top of that, I could still hear people in the stands cheering for the Giants more than I heard our "Fans" cheering for the Skins. Fuck it......I'm pissed.

[CRedskinsRule]

Tripp, I know you break the plays down, and have way more knowledge than I do. I mean I love your breakdowns. But, I think you are being harsh on the D. what you say may be accurate. but if our offense can't sustain drives, and leaves the D on the field for nearly a whole quarter than they are going to have breakdowns. Our O never gives the D a chance, and I think Blanche may be overcompensating because he knows that our O won't score. I think GB was so disgusted with the offense today, but had to bite his tongue.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Tripp, I know you break the plays down, and have way more knowledge than I do. I mean I love your breakdowns. But, I think you are being harsh on the D. what you say may be accurate. but if our offense can't sustain drives, and leaves the D on the field for nearly a whole quarter than they are going to have breakdowns. Our O never gives the D a chance, and I think Blanche may be overcompensating because he knows that our O won't score. I think GB was so disgusted with the offense today, but had to bite his tongue.

Well, the offense has controlled the time of possession for most of the season. That is one thing they've done well.

But the blitzing is getting old. Especially on third and long when you should never, ever blitz. Because we basically allow teams to convert, and it's sad.

I understand why it looks like I'm just picking a fight here, but anyone who thinks our defense is playing well right now is looking at points against and ignoring the game on the field.

Today, I thought they played a pretty good game against a top offense, but giving the Giants free passing lanes by not playing to the situation is still inexcusable coaching. And as a season-long thing, there's a lot of players on the defense who are underachieving.

There is another way to look at it, a more positive way: This team lost a superstar coverage safety to tragedy, quickly found a replacement, and have managed to stay respectable despite the loss of one of it's younger top talents. For that, I commend them.

But either way we look at it, the perception that the defense is being victimized by the offense is 100% wrong. Both have their issues, but the offenses seem depth-based and correctable. The defensive issues look more serious, like they need Landry and Rogers to become superstars, and they need to draft a great player on the front seven to fix it.

Basically, the pieces are in place on offense, and the holes need to be filled. The defense has remained solid, but has no top end talent (yet), which is a bigger issue, IMO.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, the offense has controlled the time of possession for most of the season. That is one thing they've done well.

But the blitzing is getting old. Especially on third and long when you should never, ever blitz. Because we basically allow teams to convert, and it's sad.

I understand why it looks like I'm just picking a fight here, but anyone who thinks our defense is playing well right now is looking at points against and ignoring the game on the field.

Today, I thought they played a pretty good game against a top offense, but giving the Giants free passing lanes by not playing to the situation is still inexcusable coaching. And as a season-long thing, there's a lot of players on the defense who are underachieving.

There is another way to look at it, a more positive way: This team lost a superstar coverage safety to tragedy, quickly found a replacement, and have managed to stay respectable despite the loss of one of it's younger top talents. For that, I commend them.

But either way we look at it, the perception that the defense is being victimized by the offense is 100% wrong. Both have their issues, but the offenses seem depth-based and correctable. The defensive issues look more serious, like they need Landry and Rogers to become superstars, and they need to draft a great player on the front seven to fix it.

Basically, the pieces are in place on offense, and the holes need to be filled. The defense has remained solid, but has no top end talent (yet), which is a bigger issue, IMO.

I haven't read all of your posts in this thread, so forgive me if I missed any comments along the way, but I think you're underestimating the problems along the offensive line. I don't think they are depth-based and correctable at those spots.

Our RT is a major weakness for us. Jansen is consistently getting pushed back into the face of Campbell. Rabach and Randy Thomas at times have been overmatched physically in one-on-one matchups. I have no beef with Samuels, he's not pass protecting like his all-pro self but he's doing pretty darn well considering the knee. Kendall has been the best of the bunch, clearing a path in the running game rather well, a role Randy Thomas used to play for us but now seemingly does not. We never get him out in space anymore, which is either an indictment of the coaching staff or it says that Randy is slowing down.

But whether it's Rabach making the line adjustments or Campbell doing it, the line is failing to pick up blitzes effectively. And when it's not a mental gaffe, one of them simply gets physically beat one on one.

RT has to be our top priority entering the offseason, and G and C aren't far behind.

I agree that our WR play has been miserable and is a major problem. But I don't see the offensive line being an easily correctable issue.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I haven't read all of your posts in this thread, so forgive me if I missed any comments along the way, but I think you're underestimating the problems along the offensive line. I don't think they are depth-based and correctable at those spots.

Our RT is a major weakness for us. Jansen is consistently getting pushed back into the face of Campbell. Rabach and Randy Thomas at times have been overmatched physically in one-on-one matchups. I have no beef with Samuels, he's not pass protecting like his all-pro self but he's doing pretty darn well considering the knee. Kendall has been the best of the bunch, clearing a path in the running game rather well, a role Randy Thomas used to play for us but now seemingly does not. We never get him out in space anymore, which is either an indictment of the coaching staff or it says that Randy is slowing down.

But whether it's Rabach making the line adjustments or Campbell doing it, the line is failing to pick up blitzes effectively. And when it's not a mental gaffe, one of them simply gets physically beat one on one.

RT has to be our top priority entering the offseason, and G and C aren't far behind.

I agree that our WR play has been miserable and is a major problem. But I don't see the offensive line being an easily correctable issue.

I don't want to make it seem like I'm ignoring the problems on the offensive line, talent-wise. Obviously, Rabach is a problem, and Jansen isn't all that. But I've noticed significant improvement from this group since the Steelers debacle. Which is why I'm not going off on them right now. It's because there's nothing more to say that hasn't already been said: there's some seriously under-talented pass blockers on this OL, but there was also a cohesiveness issue early in the year that killed us against Pittsburgh, and I think that has largely been fixed since the bye week.

I apply the depth-based tag, because I feel one injury could bring back the cohesiveness issues. Heyer in for Jansen seems like a lateral move, talent-wise, but if Rabach is being a weak link, we have no depth to place in for him.

It's not like Samuels and Kendall aren't great lineman, it's that they are part of a unit that needed to not get financially tied down to the other three guys. It's depth based only because Samuels and Kendall could be part of something great, but get lumped in with the rest only because the guys on the right side have really sucked at times.

[SeanTaGodsSafety]

I know that d-line will make any front five look like hell, but our front five just seem to give up. come on renaldo wynn beat the hell out of Jansen like he got his mom pregnant. And samuals seemed to not even be there either. We have to sure up the edges. Campbell got to get rid of the ball. After the ring of fame ceramony. I was ready to suit up. If you cant get up after something like that, go the hell home. Portis is a warrior. He should have never even played today. And he laid it all on the line, and for what everyone else to give up on him. Show some pride. If I were Portis I would jerk a few players up and let em know.

[NYCSkin]

I can't figure out why, with all the veterans on this team, that the Skins can't "get up" for key games. It's something that Riggo mentioned on the post game radio show...

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

What Schneed said. It's kind of scary that we will need to take a hard look at RT, RG, C and LG (Kendall is a UFA) after the season and Samuels is no spring chicken.

[GTripp0012]

And I'm not trying to say that we've had great, or even good OL production recently. Just that they've been much better of late, and that if they were the only issue, we'd be doing much, much better on offense.

[burgundy&goldnca]

We need standout player makers on both the OL, DT, linebacker and 2nd, 3rd receivers. We don't match up well with physical teams. a serious lack of execution. Too much system football you may be holding back the reins of possibly a player being dominate or outstanding

[GTripp0012]

Fwiw, my Game Charting numbers say that the No. 1 problem with the receiving corps aside from no depth and development behind ARE is that Moss is a huge part of our offense, but is generally unreliable.

I would really like to see Malcolm Kelly emerge as THE go-to target in this offense, and then we can go base 3 WR with Moss and Randle El, and Cooley dominating the middle of the field. Then all we have to do is replace Thrash on the roster in the offseason with a speed threat (Devery Henderson?), and I think most of our offensive issues are solved.

I would use the draft to fix OL, but I wouldn't worry about trying to fix it all in one year. Pick one prospect we really like, and draft him, and start him from day one. I still have faith that this group can do a mediocre job in the future. Well, not you Casey Rabach, but that seems like a simple fix.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fwiw, my Game Charting numbers say that the No. 1 problem with the receiving corps aside from no depth and development behind ARE is that Moss is a huge part of our offense, but is generally unreliable.

I would really like to see Malcolm Kelly emerge as THE go-to target in this offense, and then we can go base 3 WR with Moss and Randle El, and Cooley dominating the middle of the field. Then all we have to do is replace Thrash on the roster in the offseason with a speed threat (Devery Henderson?), and I think most of our offensive issues are solved.

I would use the draft to fix OL, but I wouldn't worry about trying to fix it all in one year. Pick one prospect we really like, and draft him, and start him from day one. I still have faith that this group can do a mediocre job in the future. Well, not you Casey Rabach, but that seems like a simple fix.

That's exactly what I've been hoping for. Maybe these last few games Kelly will step up. He hasn't been on the field that much this year but I believe when he gets going it will make a huge difference. I have'nt given up on Thomas yet. I think we'll see what we've been looking for, if not this year than next. Whether it's been injuries, a learning process or whatever, we just haven't put it together yet.

[GTripp0012]

Receiver Success Rate (5 targets min):

Antwaan Randle El (70%)
Chris Cooley (62.5%)
Mike Sellers (55.6%)
Malcolm Kelly (50.0%)
Santana Moss (49.4%)
Devin Thomas (44.4%)
Clinton Portis (39.3%)
James Thrash (29.4%)
Todd Yoder (28.6%)
Ladell Betts (16.7%)

The loose threshold for reliability is about 50% in this statistic. As a No. 1 WR, Moss really shouldn't be below 50%. He's still good for 9+ YPA because he's a deep threat and moves well after the catch, but the general unreliability is rubbing off on Campbell, I believe. These two are essentially tied at the hip, and it would be nice for Campbell to be able to have a different go-to guy, with Moss as an effective third down target that slips by defenses unoticed.

Though this is a pipe dream for the rest of this year.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Receiver Success Rate (5 targets min):

Antwaan Randle El (70%)
Chris Cooley (62.5%)
Mike Sellers (55.6%)
Malcolm Kelly (50.0%)
Santana Moss (49.4%)
Devin Thomas (44.4%)
Clinton Portis (39.3%)
James Thrash (29.4%)
Todd Yoder (28.6%)
Ladell Betts (16.7%)

The loose threshold for reliability is about 50% in this statistic. As a No. 1 WR, Moss really shouldn't be below 50%. He's still good for 9+ YPA because he's a deep threat and moves well after the catch, but the general unreliability is rubbing off on Campbell, I believe. These two are essentially tied at the hip, and it would be nice for Campbell to be able to have a different go-to guy, with Moss as an effective third down target that slips by defenses unoticed.

Though this is a pipe dream for the rest of this year.

Gtripp, I have not read the entire thread, but what are your figures a percentage of? 50% of what?
Thanx

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Gtripp, I have not read the entire thread, but what are your figures a percentage of? 50% of what?
Thanx

Successful plays (defined as 45% of yards to gain on 1st, 60% on 2nd, and 100% on 3rd or 4th) divided by total targets.