Will Jason Campbell return?

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I love how you call facts 'excuses'. In hindsight in 8 months when Campbell dramatically improves in all of the areas he's criticized about then as a result of continuity, then what will your comments be?

Ill say Dang, he turned into a good QB. Too bad he's gone. IMO no matter what he does he is gone. either he does bad and is gone in FA or he does well and leaves because we tried to trade him and he cant trust the FO. either way we are QB searchin next season

no matter how you came to the conclusion, i'm glad you see the light.

[DBUCHANON101]

i dont put alot in the 0 ints. its not like he was scoring 2-3 tds a game while doing it. just tells me he was playin not to lose

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

i dont put alot in the 0 ints. its not like he was scoring 2-3 tds a game while doing it. just tells me he was playin not to lose

do you put alot into the 6-2 record? because where i come from, that's the bottom line?

[DBUCHANON101]

Trent Green? wasnt he with Al Saunders when he was havin pro bowl seasons??
Gannon was good because he was a true student of the game, that guy could write the playbook for you. he put the time in.
and it wasnt hard for Johnson to win the SB with that BUC D. they scored like 21pts in that game vs the Raiders.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Trent Green? wasnt he with Al Saunders when he was havin pro bowl seasons??
Gannon was good because he was a true student of the game, that guy could write the playbook for you. he put the time in.
and it wasnt hard for Johnson to win the SB with that BUC D. they scored like 21pts in that game vs the Raiders.

so Campbell isn't putting the time in? that's a pretty ridiculous statement. and anyhoo, Gannon only had 2-3 good seasons. remember how god awful he was in his brief stay here? i cant believe im sticking up for Campbell. to me, this is the year he either does it, or ends up in arena football

[DBUCHANON101]

Hey guys, just take those JC jerseys and hang em in the closet. next yr they will be as useful as my ol Champ jersey i have in mine.

[Soup's Uncle]

^ Or my Arrington & Washington Jerseys...

[DBUCHANON101]

Ok, bottom line we missed the playoffs. JC started makin up for lost time with the picks he threw to end the season.

[DBUCHANON101]

That D in Pitt had a lot more to do with them winning the SB than Big Ben.

The D scored the winning TD??? The D got them there. and they played well most of the game but AZ scored the go ahead td late and Ben led his team down the field for the win.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

That D in Pitt had a lot more to do with them winning the SB than Big Ben.

The D scored the winning TD??? The D got them there. and they played well most of the game but AZ scored the go ahead td late and Ben led his team down the field for the win.

Obviously Ben threw the winning TD pass, but the D put 7 on the board and was the strength of that team throughout the season and playoffs. Those that make the claim that Ben "carried" or "led" the Steelers to the SB win are typical fans who over-emphasize the QB, when the team wins all the credit goes to the QB, when they lose it's the QB's fault.

[Paintrain]

Hey Monksdown and DBuchanon101, I'm interested in hearing your take on this:
What would you call a QB going into his third full season as a starter with career numbers of a completion percentage below 60%, right around 200 YPG, 28 TD and 31 INT, passer rating in the low-mid 70's and a winning percentage below .500?

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Hey Monksdown and DBuchanon101, I'm interested in hearing your take on this:
What would you call a QB going into his third full season as a starter with career numbers of a completion percentage below 60%, right around 200 YPG, 28 TD and 31 INT, passer rating in the low-mid 70's and a winning percentage below .500?

Someone with deceptively poor statistics at the beginning of their career that turned out to be a stud???

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Someone with deceptively poor statistics at the beginning of their career that turned out to be a stud???

How are they 'deceptively poor' stats? Are they poor or not? At that point in his career how would you classify him? If he were the QB of your team what would you be advocating to be done with him? More patience, trade, outright release?

[Monksdown]

Of course they are poor. And this is where you name drop some big stud on me. Some anomaly amongst the 100's of other qb's with numbers like that, that never succeeded. So go ahead, i'll play along.

Yes, those numbers are terrible. I'd move the quarterback out.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

How are they 'deceptively poor' stats? Are they poor or not? At that point in his career how would you classify him? If he were the QB of your team what would you be advocating to be done with him? More patience, trade, outright release?

Paintrain, what age and draft position is the player you speak of?