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View Poll Results: What Position Should We Draft in the 2010 First Round
Offensive Lineman 159 75.36%
Running Back 2 0.95%
Quarterback 50 23.70%
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:58 AM   #1
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I don't think you can include Clausen in the group of potential QBs to draft.. sure he is going to be a top pick but if you think about it, he has only really had 1 good year. Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy, despite the latter two's injury problems have been solid for a few years, especially Tebow.

I say don't risk Clausen, I would rather see us take McCoy than Clausen
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:10 AM   #2
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I don't think you can include Clausen in the group of potential QBs to draft.. sure he is going to be a top pick but if you think about it, he has only really had 1 good year. Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy, despite the latter two's injury problems have been solid for a few years, especially Tebow.

I say don't risk Clausen, I would rather see us take McCoy than Clausen
I personally am on the "Draft Colt McCoy" bandwagon, then take the best LT prospect available (if we can't get McNeil via free agency). McCoy is a proven leader for a big time program. He also has been laser accurate for the last 3 years of his collegiate career (his completion percentage was at like 76% last season and he is at 67% so far this season even though he "isn't playing well") add to that the fact that he can scramble. Our team lacks leadership on the offensive side of the ball. Go get us a leader!!!
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:29 AM   #3
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When you build a house, you build it from the foundation on up. The same goes for a football team. You build a good football team from the line to the skilled positions. A lot of fans pay attention to the touchdown passes and runs and don't realize that none of that can be attained without good line play. The line enables the quarterback to do his job. Mediocre quarterback can at times look spectacular when given enough time. The quarterback's best friend is a solid running game. Guess what, you can't run if you don't have good blocking. Someone asked a dumbass question about picking Montana versus Jacobi. If you have a decent line, yes it's a no brainer, pick Montana. But if you have a line like the Redskins, you pick Jacobi. The Redskins have to address their offensive line before committing another quarterback to a severe beating.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:41 AM   #4
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Clausen if he's there, don't go up to get him. If he's gone, best LT available.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:50 AM   #5
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When you build a house, you build it from the foundation on up. The same goes for a football team. You build a good football team from the line to the skilled positions. A lot of fans pay attention to the touchdown passes and runs and don't realize that none of that can be attained without good line play. The line enables the quarterback to do his job. Mediocre quarterback can at times look spectacular when given enough time. The quarterback's best friend is a solid running game. Guess what, you can't run if you don't have good blocking. Someone asked a dumbass question about picking Montana versus Jacobi. If you have a decent line, yes it's a no brainer, pick Montana. But if you have a line like the Redskins, you pick Jacobi. The Redskins have to address their offensive line before committing another quarterback to a severe beating.
While I absolutely agree with you that you need a solid oline, and it's the "foundation of your house", a good oline can be had in later picks. It's possible, but harder to find a good qb in the later rounds. Therefore you need to take the QB first, then go after the oline.
You used Jacoby as point to answer another question, but what you failed to mention is that Jacoby was UNDRAFTED! Why take someone with the 4th overall pick, when you can get him with the 4th pick in the 2nd round or later? Montana was taken early cause his talented warrented such, Jacoby was an undrafted free agent cause people weren't that high on him. He had something to prove. Point is, oline is easier to find deeper in rounds than qb leaders.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:03 PM   #6
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While I absolutely agree with you that you need a solid oline, and it's the "foundation of your house", a good oline can be had in later picks. It's possible, but harder to find a good qb in the later rounds. Therefore you need to take the QB first, then go after the oline.
You used Jacoby as point to answer another question, but what you failed to mention is that Jacoby was UNDRAFTED! Why take someone with the 4th overall pick, when you can get him with the 4th pick in the 2nd round or later? Montana was taken early cause his talented warrented such, Jacoby was an undrafted free agent cause people weren't that high on him. He had something to prove. Point is, oline is easier to find deeper in rounds than qb leaders.
I think my problem with not drafting an o-lineman in the first round is that I don't have faith in the offensive line coaching, nor do I have faith in the decision making folks. I mean we drafted a lineman in the 3rd round last year, and that hasn't worked out well. Furthermore, we just lost our Pro Bowl LT. Unless the offensive line coaching changes or we get some competent people that can do a good job in picking a franchise tackle in the later rounds or we get second first rounder somehow, I'd rather have the team pick a tackle in the first round.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:37 PM   #7
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I think my problem with not drafting an o-lineman in the first round is that I don't have faith in the offensive line coaching, nor do I have faith in the decision making folks. I mean we drafted a lineman in the 3rd round last year, and that hasn't worked out well. Furthermore, we just lost our Pro Bowl LT. Unless the offensive line coaching changes or we get some competent people that can do a good job in picking a franchise tackle in the later rounds or we get second first rounder somehow, I'd rather have the team pick a tackle in the first round.
Joe Bugel is not the problem. Give me any other of the great O-line coaches of the last 40 years (Jim Hanifan and Alex Gibbs come to mind), and they too wouldn't be able to overcome the lack of quality depth on our line.

As for drafting a lineman in the 3rd round (Rinehart), that was a total reach, selecting a Division 1-AA Tackle who had never faced solid competition. Blame Cerrato and his merry band of ass clowns for the fiasco that is our 2008 draft class. The most dire need going into that draft was OL depth, and the best Vinny can deliver in 10 picks is a lone reach from some 1-AA school??? Mike Pollak is a 2 year starter on Indy's OL, and he was still available when we made Malcolm Kelly our third receiver selected in the 2nd round. Freaking amazing.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:10 AM   #8
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I haven't done the research yet, but if there's a QB that grades as close to a "can't miss" as possible, we may have to take him. If not, then OL.

I'm not against trading back for more picks either. If we've got a top 5 then trade back for a late first & a 2nd or 3rd. We need as many picks as possible.

As long as VC is not making the decisions i'll most likely be happy.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:17 AM   #9
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Im taking a Tackle in the first and qb in the second.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:12 PM   #10
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O-LINE...not even a question. RBs are a dime a dozen. QB is a crap shoot and until we have a decent line its not going to matter who is taking the snaps.

If JC had a top notch line, with our D we would be a playoff contender and I'm not even a huge fan of JC.

I would LOVE to have the DB from Tennesse...Eric Berry....he reminds me a little of #21
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:46 PM   #11
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O-LINE...not even a question. RBs are a dime a dozen. QB is a crap shoot and until we have a decent line its not going to matter who is taking the snaps.

If JC had a top notch line, with our D we would be a playoff contender and I'm not even a huge fan of JC.

I would LOVE to have the DB from Tennesse...Eric Berry....he reminds me a little of #21
I agree. W/out a line the offense can't do anything. Linemen w/ the first two picks. Berry or Taylor Mays would be nice though...
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:24 PM   #12
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Given Snyderato's (in)ability to judge talent, I think LT should be the choice instead of QB. At least, a LT can usually play somewhere on the line if he doesn't work out at LT -- a QB bust is more often a dead loss. I'd go OL in the 2nd round too, unless a stud QB or RB falls that low.

Until we get a competent GM, our drafts will be like barroom drunks throwing darts.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:34 PM   #13
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Given Snyderato's (in)ability to judge talent, I think LT should be the choice instead of QB. At least, a LT can usually play somewhere on the line if he doesn't work out at LT -- a QB bust is more often a dead loss. I'd go OL in the 2nd round too, unless a stud QB or RB falls that low.

Until we get a competent GM, our drafts will be like barroom drunks throwing darts.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:10 PM   #14
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"Damn, Vinny, you hit the Miller Lite sign! What the Hell does that mean?"
Miller, yeah, that's the ticket! "With their first round selection, the Washington Redskins draft Long Snapper Moses Miller, from Fukawi State".

That should shut up the fans who are screaming for OL help.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:30 PM   #15
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I think that a team pretty much needs to get its QB and its LT in the first round of the draft. We'll need both at the end of this season. It remains to be seen if we'll suck enough to get our choice of which one we pick.

It may come down to how highly rated are the LT's and QB's on the board when we pick. But I do think we'll go with one of those two positions unless something dramatic happens prior to the draft.
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