Landry is now a bust!

[sportscurmudgeon]

I do not believe Laron Landry is a bust. His play has not improved in the past two seasons; that is for sure. But he has physical talent...


I suspect that he is not well used in many of the defensive coverages that the Skins run. Too often, he is the "guardian angel" of the defense sitting 25 yards off the ball looking to assist on pass routes to either side of the field. When the play demands that he come up to make a play, he often arrives out of control. I believe this is something that can be improved with better coaching/teaching/scheming.


If Laron Landry and his agent were willing to renegotiate a reasonable long-term deal with another team, I'd bet the Skins could get a 2nd or a 3rd round pick and a conditional 5th for him. I doubt he would bring a first round pick tho.


One more thing... Laron Landry was a lot better as the strong safety than he has been lately as the free safety. Maybe the Skins should put him back where he was more successful?

[CRedskinsRule]

The Skins are going to need a couple of "guardian angels" this week.

[Big C]

he is still a terrible tackler. i dont care what position he is playing, he shouldnt be bouncing off of guys (avant). if he could tackle consistently then he would be fine. but his missed tackles give up big plays.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Big C:

You are absoltutely right; his tackling technique is terrible and it does leave the Skins vulnerable to big plays that did not have to be.


However, I think at least part of that is lack of coaching and discipline imposed by the coaches...

[Hamoskinz]

He goes in with his shoulder charge in trying to pop the ball loose but his angles are poor and timing is off. He will whiff those sort of tackles/plays 80% of the time, and leads to big plays since he is the last line of defense. I just hope he can settle for the less glitzy plays of just wrapping up the receiver and settle for a reception instead of trying to make a play.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I think most of us compare our safties to a guy who may have been the best ever at his position. Laron is not an all pro, but he can play. He just needs to work on his fundamentals.

And he needs to remember he is not going to ever be Sean Taylor.

[Defensewins]

If G. Williams was our D-coach Landry would be well on his way to being a top safety. Our safety's have regressed under "bend but dont break..stand 50 yards away from the line" Blache.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

If G. Williams was our D-coach Landry would be well on his way to being a top safety. Our safety's have regressed under "bend but dont break..stand 50 yards away from the line" Blache.

That's probably true, Gregg always know how to get best out of players.. Perhaps Gregg will persuade Saints to trade for Landry, that would be nice - to have extra 2nd rounder or maybe 1st round?

Although trading Landry will give us another problem to fill in; who would take over free safety if Landry is traded away, Horton and Doughty are not athletic enough.. There's a reason why Moore haven't played much..

[mlmdub130]

^thats interesting, i'm guessing brees is number one

[mlmdub130]

^not this weekend

[MTK]

Regardless of their yardage rankings, which honestly doesn't tell us very much, we've played some quality QBs/passing attacks. Manning, Romo, McNabb, Ryan, are all very worthy opponents. And then there was Orton that was tearing us up prior to getting hurt.

I do think the #1 pass ranking is a bit misleading because most of the time teams are playing us with the lead, but honestly outside of some issues here and there with giving up the big play, the pass D has been pretty solid.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Regardless of their yardage rankings, which honestly doesn't tell us very much, we've played some quality QBs/passing attacks. Manning, Romo, McNabb, Ryan, are all very worthy opponents. And then there was Orton that was tearing us up prior to getting hurt.

I do think the #1 pass ranking is a bit misleading because most of the time teams are playing us with the lead, but honestly outside of some issues here and there with giving up the big play, the pass D has been pretty solid.

When I picked us to win 11 games this preseason, I did so because I knew we were playing Cassel, Delhomme, Leftwich/Freeman/(Johnson), Russell (now Gradkowski), Bulger, and Stafford all in the same year. Certainly, there was no guarentee we were going to win every single one of those games, and we haven't played the Raiders yet, but all those teams except one were able to get to double digits against us.

As a rule of thumb, I adjust yards per pass 0.2 over the course of a season for every well above average or well below average passing offense/defense that's played. Well, it hasn't been a whole season yet, but we're giving up 5.5 yards per pass against a league average of 6.2, which would put is 0.7 per pass attempt above the league average (that's a pretty big margin). That's 3rd best in the NFL. But we're the only team who has played 5 bad passing offenses in the same year (+1.0 YPA adjustment), and I would say we have yet to play a well above average passing offense.

That all changes this week. According to my rule of thumb, playing the Saints should force our season YPA on defense from 5.5 to 5.7, and if it doesn't, then we played much better or worse than we have this season. But, right now, our passing defense is averaging about a yard better per attempt simply because of the competition we've played. If we get to play against Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers, that will go a long way to helping the conventional stats match the opponent adjusted ones.

And those (not you Matty) who do think we have the No. 1 pass defense, well, then we should have no issue shutting down Drew Brees this week. Should be an even matchup.

[mlmdub130]

^our pass d being "solid" could be also due to the fact our run d is pretty terrible, so they really have no need to pass

[Beemnseven]

Okay, if we go by current QB ratings (not yardage), then McNabb is the toughest we've faced at #10. Followed by Romo (#11), Eli (#13), Orton (#14), Matt Ryan (#20), Matt Cassel (#22), Bulger (#26), Stafford (#28) and Jake Delhomme (#31). Josh Freeman didn't even make the list.

I'm not saying our secondary is complete garbage, but I still maintain the schedule has been very kind to us with respect to the caliber of QBs we've faced.

[DBUCHANON101]

Sorry guys but i see Brees and Co giving our secondary many problems.