Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We're going to need that 1st rounder, in order to send it to the Titans for Chris Simms (is he with the Titans? I've lost track)

He's currently with the Cheech and Chong's.

[BYUClark]

Speaking of Training Camp, is there a place where one can get the BEST coverage of day to day activities?

Anyone here who frequently attends? I'm always interested to hear news of how the team is doing (and not limited to my boy, Beck).

I've got a great amount of respect for the Shanahans and all they've accomplished. McNabb is a franchise player, and followed him in Philly (with my boy Chad Lewes, retired).

Some great things can happen in Skinsville.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BYUClark

Speaking of Training Camp, is there a place where one can get the BEST coverage of day to day activities?

Anyone here who frequently attends? I'm always interested to hear news of how the team is doing (and not limited to my boy, Beck).

I've got a great amount of respect for the Shanahans and all they've accomplished. McNabb is a franchise player, and followed him in Philly (with my boy Chad Lewes, retired).

Some great things can happen in Skinsville.

Redskins Journal

Redskins Confidential | Latest Redskins News | Washington Examiner

these guys post more of the meat and potatoes

if you do twitter the list of guys I follow gives you pretty much everything

https://twitter.com/RedskinsRT/lists

[CooleyAsCanBe]

Looks like Beck is still impressing. I'm a BYU grad, too, BYUClark, and I enjoy seeing Beck get a second (or third, I guess) chance given the talent I watched throughout his college career. All things equal, I think he'd beat out Grossman, but given Grossman's experience with Shanahan's system in Houston, it's an uphill battle. I think he'll show enough to convince Shanahan to keep three QBs and I wouldn't be surprised if Grossman ends up getting cut later on.

Studs and Duds 8/6/10 | Washington Examiner

QB John Beck. Made a few nice throws, though one was helped by a major defensive breakdown. Still, he’s starting to get comfortable. He hit Brandon Banks on a go-route down the right side (Banks dusted Ramzee Robinson) for a score. He also rolled to his right and found Lee Vickers with a sidearm toss; there was a narrow window and he squeezed it in. Beck definitely missed on some throws, but considering when he came here, he’s doing fine. Better than Colt Brennan, that’s for sure.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CooleyAsCanBe

Looks like Beck is still impressing. I'm a BYU grad, too, BYUClark, and I enjoy seeing Beck get a second (or third, I guess) chance given the talent I watched throughout his college career. All things equal, I think he'd beat out Grossman, but given Grossman's experience with Shanahan's system in Houston, it's an uphill battle. I think he'll show enough to convince Shanahan to keep three QBs and I wouldn't be surprised if Grossman ends up getting cut later on.

Studs and Duds 8/6/10 | Washington Examiner

I hope Beck does excel and makes it. Grossman just doesn't have it, but then again like you say he does have the experience advantage. I have always cheered for the young QBs to make a move or when they did make one. Only bad thing is they never panned out(ie Frerotte, Ramsey, JC).

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I hope Beck does excel and makes it. Grossman just doesn't have it, but then again like you say he does have the experience advantage. I have always cheered for the young QBs to make a move or when they did make one. Only bad thing is they never panned out(ie Frerotte, Ramsey, JC).

The thing about Beck though is that he's going to be 29 (though these days thats young by QB standards) by the end of the month. It would be nice though to have a guy that could play like another Donovan backup a couple of years ago in Jeff Garcia, or better yet, lets have Donovan start his own iron man streak. Of course one of the best way to do it is to get that Denver ground game transferred to DC.

Right now though it seems like Grossman simply isn't cutting it. Even Los is intercepting him.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The thing about Beck though is that he's going to be 29 (though these days thats young by QB standards) by the end of the month. It would be nice though to have a guy that could play like another Donovan backup a couple of years ago in Jeff Garcia, or better yet, lets have Donovan start his own iron man streak. Of course one of the best way to do it is to get that Denver ground game transferred to DC.

Right now though it seems like Grossman simply isn't cutting it. Even Los is intercepting him.

Well I can't see Shanny passing up drafting a QB or two in the next few drafts. It would be nice to have a young stud understudy to Donovan that could be able to come in and do the job when need be.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Well I can't see Shanny passing up drafting a QB or two in the next few drafts. It would be nice to have a young stud understudy to Donovan that could be able to come in and do the job when need be.

Not in the first round though. Not unless he's the next Jay Cutler or John Elway talent-wise. For all the crap Cutler gets, he was really a beast when he played for Shanahan.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The thing about Beck though is that he's going to be 29 (though these days thats young by QB standards) by the end of the month. It would be nice though to have a guy that could play like another Donovan backup a couple of years ago in Jeff Garcia, or better yet, lets have Donovan start his own iron man streak. Of course one of the best way to do it is to get that Denver ground game transferred to DC.

Right now though it seems like Grossman simply isn't cutting it. Even Los is intercepting him.

mcnabb has thrown a few himself.. quite a few batted down as well... hopefully it works itself out

[GusFrerotte]

By 2013 I think we will go for a first round QB for sure, if not sooner. If Donovan doesn't turn out to be the savior, you will have to draft one in the next few years. IF Donovan lives up to expectation you still need a young QB to give the team a strong backup and a potential succesor to McNabb. If Beck works out great, but to be honest the duo of Beck and Bartel isn't so promising on paper, and Grossman sucks. You can't expect to build for the long term around #5, since he realistically only has 5 years left, with a possible shelf life of only 3. WE can't put our eggs all in one basket is my drift.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

By 2013 I think we will go for a first round QB for sure, if not sooner. If Donovan doesn't turn out to be the savior, you will have to draft one in the next few years. IF Donovan lives up to expectation you still need a young QB to give the team a strong backup and a potential succesor to McNabb. If Beck works out great, but to be honest the duo of Beck and Bartel isn't so promising on paper, and Grossman sucks. You can't expect to build for the long term around #5, since he realistically only has 5 years left, with a possible shelf life of only 3. WE can't put our eggs all in one basket is my drift.

next couple of drafts if they end up existing

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

By 2013 I think we will go for a first round QB for sure, if not sooner. If Donovan doesn't turn out to be the savior, you will have to draft one in the next few years. IF Donovan lives up to expectation you still need a young QB to give the team a strong backup and a potential succesor to McNabb. If Beck works out great, but to be honest the duo of Beck and Bartel isn't so promising on paper, and Grossman sucks. You can't expect to build for the long term around #5, since he realistically only has 5 years left, with a possible shelf life of only 3. WE can't put our eggs all in one basket is my drift.

After the Brian Griese experiment failed, Shanahan sure took his damn time in drafting a first round QB, instead relying on Jake Plummer in the interim until 2006, when their relationship soured to a point of no return. Basically, if the QB isn't a mobile one, Shanahan isn't going to give much of a look towards him. So, if the highly touted 1st round QB prospects don't have mobility and other QB skills, Shanahan is more than likely going to pass on said prospects.

[gafinfan]

Hi to all and Hail to the Redskins! I've enjoyed the Dolphins/Redskins battles for a very long time and while living in Roanoke VA. (for 8 years) I got to enjoy your rabid ways though always respectful.

I, too, am a John Beck fan who thinks and feels he was never given a fair shake because in 07 he was thrown to the wolves and given no chance to suceed on a very bad team with alot of injuries to the starters by the time John started. Since that terrible start he has only been given the chance to play in one full game, last years Ravens 4th preseason game against the Falcons.

You can go to YouTube and the NFL channel to watch the reply of that game and also view John's stats for it, which are quite good.

[CultBrennan59]

Just wanted to mention that since this thread mentions Doug Dutch, that he said to the baltimore sun that practices as a redskins were much easier than as a raven.

All I got to say to that is sure the ravens go harder at practice, but they've already lost their starting corner for the year during these tough practices. That has happened here yet (Knock on wood that it doesn't happen here at all)

[30gut]

http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/reds...actice-mon-89/

Originally Posted by Rich Campbell

QB John Beck has some tools that these coaches should be able to work with. Early in 11-on-11 work, he rolled to his left and threw across his body, hitting TE Logan Paulsen in stride for a nice gain. He also drilled WR Shay Hodge in stride on a deep slant.

I’ve heard people around the league rave about how smart Beck is. He looks more comfortable in the offense every day. Today that showed in how he checked to Hodge in a hot read against the blitz. It was a quick slant that picked up about 10 yards.

Kyle Shanahan said last week that Beck hasn’t proved he can’t do it in the NFL. That’s an interesting way to look at him. Beck was drafted in the second round, so he has a quality pedigree. Perhaps being with the Shanahan father-son duo and McNabb will provide him with a level of teaching he wasn’t exposed to in Miami and Baltimore.