Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!

[mredskins]

44ever I hear you man, I have been a fan for a long time. This team is very frustrating to cheer for, it has been a long 20 years since the last Super Bowl.

And never mine winning Super Bowls I am just talking about fun competitive football to watch. Redskins football is just ugly football to watch.

[MTK]

Another new rule proposal: losses will count double, but only against the Skins :cheeky-sm

[MTK]

Yes I'm happy with our 4 wins. That equals our win total from last year and puts us on track for 8-8, which is what I expected for this season.

We're not going to the SB this year, so perhaps some need to adjust their expectations a bit. Some seem to have this SB or bust mentality, and if we're not blowing teams out the season is a failure, not sure what that thinking accomplishes really and it's only going to leave you disappointed.

I'm no more confident about this game than I was the first time around. And probably no more confident than any level headed Eagles fan. Division game, at home, to think that we have no shot is a little out of touch.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yes I'm happy with our 4 wins. That equals our win total from last year and puts us on track for 8-8, which is what I expected for this season.

We're not going to the SB this year, so perhaps some need to adjust their expectations a bit. Some seem to have this SB or bust mentality, and if we're not blowing teams out the season is a failure, not sure what that thinking accomplishes really and it's only going to leave you disappointed.

I just want to see consistency bro. I'm not expecting a SB. I am happy with the team overall this year. But I'm just being realistic with my expectations against the Eagles. HTTR.

[freddyg12]

44ever, Vick is playing his best, no doubt this year we've seen him put it all together. But his game has a serious downside in that he's always been injury prone. I'm certainly not saying I want to see him hurt but the more a defense hits him in a game the more likely he is to get hurt, fumble or throw picks. This is obviously the case w/any qb, but w/Vick his game is much more reckless and defenses can capitalize on it.

I disagree that the iggles would've won that game w/Vick, who knows if they would've? Monday's game will be interesting because our D is starting to find itself & Haslett has found some packages (nickel) that work.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

44ever, Vick is playing his best, no doubt this year we've seen him put it all together. But his game has a serious downside in that he's always been injury prone. I'm certainly not saying I want to see him hurt but the more a defense hits him in a game the more likely he is to get hurt, fumble or throw picks. This is obviously the case w/any qb, but w/Vick his game is much more reckless and defenses can capitalize on it.

I disagree that the iggles would've won that game w/Vick, who knows if they would've? Monday's game will be interesting because our D is starting to find itself & Haslett has found some packages (nickel) that work.

I hear you man, In fact our D played well the last game vs them. If we can put points on the board in every quarter I will be happy W or L. I just don't wan't to see us shut down again. I also want to beat them convincingly, not because their QB went out.

If we lose, I want to be able to say, "I seen some additional improvements that made me happy" Like we have seen with Banks and a few others. I want to see consistent improvement across the board. Thats all Im asking for at this point.

I would love to see our D shut Vick down! That would set things off nice for the rest of the season.

[MTK]

Well as we've seen so far, we've been consistently inconsistent. Seems like that's going to be the norm for this year, so buckle up and get ready for some more non-wins and losses.

[Jontrem]

How about John Feinstein should be fired for being inflamatory and making the race issue worse in this country.

[Mcnabb]

If I didnt think we could make the SB, then I wouldnt watch them? I believe every year that we can win a SB. Its the NFL, any given sunday! Just look at clevelend beating the pats??? I think if we make the playoffs anything can happen.

[MTK]

Sure, any given Sunday, but let's be real. There are a handful of teams that are serious SB contenders, another handful of teams that are playoff worthy but would need a lot of breaks to reach the SB, and the rest are just playing out the string. I think we're on the edge of being a playoff contender.

[Mcnabb]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Sure, any given Sunday, but let's be real. There are a handful of teams that are serious SB contenders, another handful of teams that are playoff worthy but would need a lot of breaks to reach the SB, and the rest are just playing out the string. I think we're on the edge of being a playoff contender.

Well we could have beat the Colts, but we f**ked that up lol however if we can contend with them, im confident we can beat any of the 31 other teams, but yeah i agree if we make the playoffs this year I will be happy.

[aceinthehouse]

Winning cures everything.
If we can somehow pull out a win Monday Night,than this team has a good shot to make the playoffs.

We may not have the quantity of wins to win the Division and or get a high Playoff seeding,but our Quality wins are very,VERY good.

It's quite possible that the 2 NFC losses we have(Rams,Lions) won't even sniff the playoffs...so there won't be a head-to-head tiebreakers to deal with at seasons end.

Which is why we need the Rams to either win their Division outright,or start losing more games and tank. Both are possible scenarios.

Our other 2 Losses came to AFC teams which will have little,to no affect on us when sorting out the Playoff teams and their seedings.

So sweeping Philly will be absolutely HUGE in continuing this theme. If we sweep Philly,then all we have to do is 2 things to beat them out of the Playoffs.

#1)make sure we have at least the same # of Division wins as they do at end of season and no less. (We would be 3-0 and they would be 0-2 if we beat them there)
and
#2)make sure we have at least the same overall record as they do and no less at end of season.

If any of these scenarios are true,then we have dibbs over the Eagles for the Playoffs.

What the Redskins need more than anything right now,besides just WINNING their games...is

#1)They need the Packers,Bears both to stay even keel with the redskins overall record.
#2)They need either the Saints or Bucs to start losing games.
#3)They need the Rams to either win their Division or tank the season and be nowhere near the playoffs.
#4)They need the Cowboys to throw wrinkle upsets against the Giants or Eagles or both to take some pressure off the Skins.
#5)They need to stay as close as they can with the Giants as much as possible with weeks 13 and week 17 looming.

If all 5 of these things can happen in our favor,we not only will make the playoffs...but we will win our Division for the 1st time since 1999.

And don't kid yourselves...the Dallas Cowbous will play a key role in helping us make this happen,whether they beat the Giants or Eagles in any of these matchups.

If we win Monday Night and Dallas knocks off the Giants,we'll be 1 game back,with 7 games remaining.

Lets do this!!
HTTR!
ace

[44ever]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

Winning cures everything.
If we can somehow pull out a win Monday Night,than this team has a good shot to make the playoffs.

We may not have the quantity of wins to win the Division and or get a high Playoff seeding,but our Quality wins are very,VERY good.

It's quite possible that the 2 NFC losses we have(Rams,Lions) won't even sniff the playoffs...so there won't be a head-to-head tiebreakers to deal with at seasons end.

Which is why we need the Rams to either win their Division outright,or start losing more games and tank. Both are possible scenarios.

Our other 2 Losses came to AFC teams which will have little,to no affect on us when sorting out the Playoff teams and their seedings.

So sweeping Philly will be absolutely HUGE in continuing this theme. If we sweep Philly,then all we have to do is 2 things to beat them out of the Playoffs.

#1)make sure we have at least the same # of Division wins as they do at end of season and no less. (We would be 3-0 and they would be 0-2 if we beat them there)
and
#2)make sure we have at least the same overall record as they do and no less at end of season.

If any of these scenarios are true,then we have dibbs over the Eagles for the Playoffs.

What the Redskins need more than anything right now,besides just WINNING their games...is

#1)They need the Packers,Bears both to stay even keel with the redskins overall record.
#2)They need either the Saints or Bucs to start losing games.
#3)They need the Rams to either win their Division or tank the season and be nowhere near the playoffs.
#4)They need the Cowboys to throw wrinkle upsets against the Giants or Eagles or both to take some pressure off the Skins.
#5)They need to stay as close as they can with the Giants as much as possible with weeks 13 and week 17 looming.

If all 5 of these things can happen in our favor,we not only will make the playoffs...but we will win our Division for the 1st time since 1999.

And don't kid yourselves...the Dallas Cowbous will play a key role in helping us make this happen,whether they beat the Giants or Eagles in any of these matchups.

If we win Monday Night and Dallas knocks off the Giants,we'll be 1 game back,with 7 games remaining.

Lets do this!!
HTTR!
ace

I think you got Quality and Quantity reversed.

Also "If all 5 of these things can happen in our favor,we not only will make the playoffs...but we will win our Division for the 1st time since 1999." This kind of logic drives me crazy. How bout if the Skins start playing hard, consistent football, We wouldn't need to rely on all this luck and unlikely variables to stumble into the playoffs. This is no way to make the playoffs.

I like your unwavering positive attitude but...

[MTK]

So much changes week to week, all I can say is regardless of what happens on Monday, we won't be out of the hunt anymore than we could be back in it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Actually Ace is using correct NFL terminology as opposed to "Real" terminology.

See, the NFL counts a win (amazingly) as a WIN for tiebreakers and comparisons. SO if we beat the Eagles by 1 we get the same QUALITY win (since it is division and conference opponent) as if we had beat them by 30.

You use the "real" definition, where a 1 point win is not a QUALITY win, but just a poor man's win with comments.

So, in NFL terms we have 4 QUALITY wins, 2 that are division, (high quality), 2 that are Conference contenders (quality in that A- they are in conference and B- both would seem to be competitors for a playoff spot). On the other hand 3 of our 4 losses could be considered low quality losses (2 are out of conference and have little bearing on wild card tiebreakers, 1(lions) is in conference but unlikely to be a wild card competitor.) so out of our 4 losses, at this point only one would appear to be a NFL quality loss. That is the Rams, because we could end up losing a tiebreaker for a wild card spot to them.

Obviously, his use of quantity is correct as we would all like a better quantity of wins.