Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”

MTK · 03-23-2011, 10:03 AM

It's not worth it SS!! I know I haven't learned either.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's not worth it SS!! I know I haven't learned either.

You know if we were mods on some other sites, we would have just locked this up a long time ago

mlmpetert · 03-23-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You know if we were mods on some other sites, we would have just locked this up a long time ago

I was kind of thinking that while reading through a bunch of the back and forths. Obviously all of the members who have been around here for a least a little bit have a lot of respect for all the mods and understand that theyre not just a bunch of assholes forcing their opinions on everyone. Not so much on the other forum. Its almost like the other forum and Danny have a lot in common……

much thanks to all the warpath moderators

freddyg12 · 03-23-2011, 10:20 AM

All of this to me leads back to what is a terribly ironic problem the Danny has; image. I say that because he has seemed to be disproportionately concerned w/his image to the extent that it's exacerbated his already poor public image. This from a guy who has a knack for marketing.

I wonder if part of it may be due to a lack of charisma, public confidence & media appeal. To contrast, you may hate Jerry Jones, but he's publicly accountable, confident in his speech & comfortable in his role as a public figure. Snyder just doesn't exude any of the above. In politics, it is rare these days that a congressman or other publicly elected major office holder is a poor public speaker (GW Bush is an exception). As an nfl team owner, DS doesn't have to have that same ability, but needs to realize he's as much a public figure. Not saying Snyder is a poor speaker per se, but he's not good at it & not comfortable w/it.

That alone can't explain why people hate him. There are obvious reasons, such as our team's big payroll & small no. of wins in his tenure. But it's hard to ignore a respectable journalist like John Feinstein when he gives a detailed account of how the Danny has acted childishly. The suit against City Paper really makes it hard to side w/the Danny, even if the paper was questionable in some of its "facts."

If you want to play w/the big boys you have to accept all that goes w/it. IMO the Danny could improve his image & the team by being more publicly accountable, and simply ignoring some of the criticism that comes his way. As an NFL owner if you can't handle criticism from the media, you probably are in for a tough time.

It's not just about what DS supposedly did or didn't do, most fans aren't interested in looking into all his past actions, it's more about how he handles the spotlight. Sadly, through his reactions to the media, he comes across as petulant, insecure and petty more often than not.

I certainly hope in his 'maturity' as an owner that he can become comfortable in his own skin & realize that people will actually respect him more if he stands by his decisions & doesn't worry about what the media reports about he & the team.

hooskins · 03-23-2011, 10:24 AM

There is a middle ground here. I have revisited this particular issue and i realize it is not as big of a deal as I thought. As for DS' past incidents arguments can be made. However, I do not think you can fault a guy for donating to charity or public work. That makes a real difference and it is not something he has to do. Give him credit where it is due.

I do agree that it would be great if DS took a backseat role with this team, but it is his money so he can do whatever he wants. I do not think, he needs to get involved with petty issues, however, like the City Paper incident.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

There is a middle ground here

You'd think so...but apparently not

SmootSmack · 03-23-2011, 12:11 PM

Do you ever actually listen to ESPN 980, because if you did then you'd know that he's not controlling any criticism there. I think I mentioned a few months back that I was basically offered a job with the radio station (and some other Redskins media properties), and honestly, Dan Snyder had really nothing to do with it at all. He lets them do their thing, and doesn't prevent them from giving their opinion.

mlmpetert · 03-23-2011, 12:50 PM

i dont listen to 980. Im in Richmond and i think the programming is a little different and i have no idea if danny owns this territory too. I have heard 980 clips where he does get criticized though. Regardless it creates a conflict of interest especially considering the image danny has created and continues to create regarding his response to criticism. Maybe hes not overtly not allowing people to criticize him, but if he was my boss Im sure id feel the presence of a unspecified line. It leads towards fascism, maybe its just the American in me that doesn’t like it....

SmootSmack · 03-23-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

i dont listen to 980. Im in Richmond and i think the programming is a little different and i have no idea if danny owns this territory too. I have heard 980 clips where he does get criticized though. Regardless it creates a conflict of interest especially considering the image danny has created and continues to create regarding his response to criticism. Maybe hes not overtly not allowing people to criticize him, but if he was my boss Im sure id feel the presence of a unspecified line. It leads towards fascism, maybe its just the American in me that doesn’t like it....

And on that note, I'm done

Fascism...jeez

hooskins · 03-23-2011, 01:06 PM

Although I do have my gripes with espn 980, The Sports Reporters are very critical of DS.

Ruhskins · 03-23-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Although I do have my gripes with espn 980, The Sports Reporters are very critical of DS.

The Sports Reporters are almost TMZ-like with their criticism of the Redskins and Snyder. I actually don't listen to them because of that. I mean I don't mind them criticizing the team, but the show becomes a whining bitchfest.

hooskins · 03-23-2011, 01:41 PM

If you think The Sports Reports are TMZ like listen to LaVar's horrible show.

freddyg12 · 03-23-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

If you think The Sports Reports are TMZ like listen to LaVar's horrible show.

his blog is usually useless, so I can imagine.

NC_Skins · 03-23-2011, 07:59 PM

I'm going to have to say that comparing Snyder's actions to that of a man who maliciously tortured and executed dogs for profit is ludicrous to say the least. The guy is a first class douchebag, but he's not at the level of a Michael Vick. I would compare Snyder to Kevin Trudeau. A con artist who's slick, great at marketing, and would be gladly sell you beach front property in Arizona.

The fascist comment was a bit misguided, but I like your spirit though.

03-23-2011, 10:03 AM	#1
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” It's not worth it SS!! I know I haven't learned either. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-23-2011, 10:20 AM	#4
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” All of this to me leads back to what is a terribly ironic problem the Danny has; image. I say that because he has seemed to be disproportionately concerned w/his image to the extent that it's exacerbated his already poor public image. This from a guy who has a knack for marketing. I wonder if part of it may be due to a lack of charisma, public confidence & media appeal. To contrast, you may hate Jerry Jones, but he's publicly accountable, confident in his speech & comfortable in his role as a public figure. Snyder just doesn't exude any of the above. In politics, it is rare these days that a congressman or other publicly elected major office holder is a poor public speaker (GW Bush is an exception). As an nfl team owner, DS doesn't have to have that same ability, but needs to realize he's as much a public figure. Not saying Snyder is a poor speaker per se, but he's not good at it & not comfortable w/it. That alone can't explain why people hate him. There are obvious reasons, such as our team's big payroll & small no. of wins in his tenure. But it's hard to ignore a respectable journalist like John Feinstein when he gives a detailed account of how the Danny has acted childishly. The suit against City Paper really makes it hard to side w/the Danny, even if the paper was questionable in some of its "facts." If you want to play w/the big boys you have to accept all that goes w/it. IMO the Danny could improve his image & the team by being more publicly accountable, and simply ignoring some of the criticism that comes his way. As an NFL owner if you can't handle criticism from the media, you probably are in for a tough time. It's not just about what DS supposedly did or didn't do, most fans aren't interested in looking into all his past actions, it's more about how he handles the spotlight. Sadly, through his reactions to the media, he comes across as petulant, insecure and petty more often than not. I certainly hope in his 'maturity' as an owner that he can become comfortable in his own skin & realize that people will actually respect him more if he stands by his decisions & doesn't worry about what the media reports about he & the team.

03-23-2011, 10:24 AM	#5
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 39 Posts: 8,606	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” There is a middle ground here. I have revisited this particular issue and i realize it is not as big of a deal as I thought. As for DS' past incidents arguments can be made. However, I do not think you can fault a guy for donating to charity or public work. That makes a real difference and it is not something he has to do. Give him credit where it is due. I do agree that it would be great if DS took a backseat role with this team, but it is his money so he can do whatever he wants. I do not think, he needs to get involved with petty issues, however, like the City Paper incident. __________________ Vacancy

03-23-2011, 12:11 PM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” Do you ever actually listen to ESPN 980, because if you did then you'd know that he's not controlling any criticism there. I think I mentioned a few months back that I was basically offered a job with the radio station (and some other Redskins media properties), and honestly, Dan Snyder had really nothing to do with it at all. He lets them do their thing, and doesn't prevent them from giving their opinion. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-23-2011, 12:50 PM	#8
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” i dont listen to 980. Im in Richmond and i think the programming is a little different and i have no idea if danny owns this territory too. I have heard 980 clips where he does get criticized though. Regardless it creates a conflict of interest especially considering the image danny has created and continues to create regarding his response to criticism. Maybe hes not overtly not allowing people to criticize him, but if he was my boss Im sure id feel the presence of a unspecified line. It leads towards fascism, maybe its just the American in me that doesn’t like it....

03-23-2011, 01:06 PM	#10
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 39 Posts: 8,606	Although I do have my gripes with espn 980, The Sports Reporters are very critical of DS. __________________ Vacancy

03-23-2011, 01:41 PM	#12
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 39 Posts: 8,606	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” If you think The Sports Reports are TMZ like listen to LaVar's horrible show. __________________ Vacancy

03-23-2011, 07:59 PM	#14
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,755	Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider” I'm going to have to say that comparing Snyder's actions to that of a man who maliciously tortured and executed dogs for profit is ludicrous to say the least. The guy is a first class douchebag, but he's not at the level of a Michael Vick. I would compare Snyder to Kevin Trudeau. A con artist who's slick, great at marketing, and would be gladly sell you beach front property in Arizona. The fascist comment was a bit misguided, but I like your spirit though.

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