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Old 07-23-2011, 07:38 PM   #1
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I think the NFL has pretty much hit it's ceiling for revenue or damn near close. You need only look at the economy to understand this. Wages aren't getting any higher but inflation is/has rising steadily. It comes down to a max you'll be able to squeeze out of companies for advertising.
Adding more primetime games is a big untapped revenue pool.
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I think the NFL has pretty much hit it's ceiling for revenue or damn near close. You need only look at the economy to understand this. Wages aren't getting any higher but inflation is/has rising steadily. It comes down to a max you'll be able to squeeze out of companies for advertising.
You are assuming the current technology stays constant and that new branches of communication don't open up. Even with todays tech, has anyone thought about revenue generated by streaming games?

10 years ago, there wasn't an NFL Network adverting games. I am sure in 10 years we will be paying for new and different ways to view the game.

Just saying, the world is not a static place. The economy will again bounce back and revenues will rise - inflation will cause wages to rise, etc. etc. I would not be surprised if (after adjusing for inflation) NFL real revenues increase by 50% or more in the 10 years.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:41 AM   #3
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I think the NFL has pretty much hit it's ceiling for revenue or damn near close. You need only look at the economy to understand this. Wages aren't getting any higher but inflation is/has rising steadily. It comes down to a max you'll be able to squeeze out of companies for advertising.
I think you are showing that economics is maybe not your strong suit. The NFL basically maintained or grew their revenues (depending on how you look at it) during the worst economic time period in decades. Their ceiling for revenue is high...very high. And that is the main driving force behind this entire situation.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:49 AM   #4
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Looks like everything is hashed out.
Just need for the player reps to vote tomorrow.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:44 AM   #5
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I think you are showing that economics is maybe not your strong suit. The NFL basically maintained or grew their revenues (depending on how you look at it) during the worst economic time period in decades. Their ceiling for revenue is high...very high. And that is the main driving force behind this entire situation.
I know economics quite well, and them thriving in a economic downturn doesn't mean jack. Many corporations out there thrived in a economic downturn. GE had 14 billion in profits last year, and oil companies...well, record profits. The main driving force behind this entire situation is the owners want a bigger percentage of the profits. It's always been about greed. It's not about money so they can invest in new stadiums, because they are just going to hold their cities hostage over that.


How many season ticket holders are going to continue paying with a 50% increase to tickets? parking? concessions? I say that, but normal people are just as stupid with their money as NFL players are. Instead of buying bling, they finance NFL tickets. Their ceiling may be high, but you fail to realize is that average income hasn't risen like it should have over the years. Inflation has caught up and bit us in the ass. Sure you may be doing great, but a good portion of the nation are not. They are trying to make ends meat.


The economy will rebound, but doesn't account for jobs continuing to be shipped overseas because some foreign kid will do it for 1/10 of the cost you do it at. Companies can't keep throwing money into advertising without passing it on to the consumers, and how's that going to work? It's not. Pay isn't rising, but inflation is.
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:46 PM   #6
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Can you imagine what the TV rights will be in 10 years ?!?!
In 10 years there will be massive internet rights, too, to go along with ginormous tv rights.
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Adding more primetime games is a big untapped revenue pool.
I disagree. Adding more primetime games will dilute their product. It used to be that Monday Night Football was the big game to watch (now it's moved to Sunday night), and Sunday night was the meh...it's on so I'll watch it kinda game. You start adding in more primetime guys and you'll saturate your market and not in a good way.

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In 10 years there will be massive internet rights, too, to go along with ginormous tv rights.
Sorry bro, but that markets BEEN tapped.



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The revenues for the NFL have skyrocketed the past 5-10 years. There is no way it can continue that type of revenue. Much like the housing market and anything else, there comes a time and point where you can't get anymore. Sure they'll get increase in revenue, but at some point, it isn't going to be feasible for TV stations to get the rights to broadcast. When you see NFL broadcasting rights expense start outweighing the advertising revenue, then you'll see TV stations backing down on even bidding.
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I disagree. Adding more primetime games will dilute their product. It used to be that Monday Night Football was the big game to watch (now it's moved to Sunday night), and Sunday night was the meh...it's on so I'll watch it kinda game. You start adding in more primetime guys and you'll saturate your market and not in a good way.



Sorry bro, but that markets BEEN tapped.



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The revenues for the NFL have skyrocketed the past 5-10 years. There is no way it can continue that type of revenue. Much like the housing market and anything else, there comes a time and point where you can't get anymore. Sure they'll get increase in revenue, but at some point, it isn't going to be feasible for TV stations to get the rights to broadcast. When you see NFL broadcasting rights expense start outweighing the advertising revenue, then you'll see TV stations backing down on even bidding.
Tapping the internet market has only just begun. As we move towards internet provision of all of our entertainment (which is the current trend), the internet pie will produce pieces which are not on the table today and the pie will grow.
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Can you imagine what the TV rights will be in 10 years ?!?!
Yes, yes I can
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:49 PM   #10
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You guys are speaking right in my wheelhouse, these are exactly the things I work on. But, I can't and don't discuss specifics here. So I'll just say...can't wait for some NFL moves finally next week
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You guys are speaking right in my wheelhouse, these are exactly the things I work on. But, I can't and don't discuss specifics here. So I'll just say...can't wait for some NFL moves finally next week
Soo, Based on your comments Asomugha is a......REDSKIN??? YES!

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Old 07-23-2011, 11:39 PM   #12
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Soo, Based on your comments Asomugha is a......REDSKIN??? YES!

LOL....wrong wheelhouse...but no, I don't think so
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:59 AM   #13
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You guys are speaking right in my wheelhouse, these are exactly the things I work on. But, I can't and don't discuss specifics here. So I'll just say...can't wait for some NFL moves finally next week
lol......... would it be a safe assumption to maybe double what it is now?(give or take a billion)
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:57 PM   #14
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you all are missing the point, internet will provide equal access to all, thus allowing workers around the world to unite, and finally throw off the bounds of the evil owners. The players just didn't wait for the right moment to unite.
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sure hope we are too busy talking about specific Redskins moves by Tues/Wed to care about NFL revenue streams for the next 10 years.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:28 PM   #15
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you all are missing the point, internet will provide equal access to all, thus allowing workers around the world to unite, and finally throw off the bounds of the evil owners. The players just didn't wait for the right moment to unite.
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sure hope we are too busy talking about specific Redskins moves by Tues/Wed to care about NFL revenue streams for the next 10 years.
I'm with you.....don't care about revenue streams right now.....just want football to ACTUALLY start sometime soon.
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