Camp Battles- The journey to 53

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Pretty much agree with you with some possible changes.

1. Made a spot for OLB Markus White.
2. Sellers as backup for both FB and TE.
3. Paulsen cut.
4. Riley cut.
5. Alexander backup for both OLB and ILB.
6. Golston makes the team because he could move inside if needed.
7. Darrion Scott cut.
8. Banks used as KR only.

Yep -- Riley. Didn't see much from him this time around. Granted, I'm not up until 4 am watching game tape, but from a fan stand point, he's not exactly what you would call *playmaker*.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

QB: Beck, Grossman (2-No need for Clemens)
RB: Hightower, Helu, Torain (3-Royster to PS)
FB: Young (1-Sellers cut)
TE: Cooley, Davis, Paulsen (3)
WR: Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, Austin, Paul, Banks (7-Banks is too valuable)
T: T. Williams, Locklear, Jamaal Brown (3)
G: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Hicks, Hurt (3-Capers to PS or cut outright)
C: Montgomery, Cook (2)

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DE: Carriker, Bowen, Scott (3)
DT: Cofield, Bryant, Worthington (3)
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Rob Jackson, Alexander (4)
ILB: Fletch, Rocky, Fox, Riley (4)
SS: Landry, Gomes (2-Horton is gone once Moore is activated from PUP)
FS: Otogwe, Doughty, Moore (3)
CB: Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Buchanon, Westbrook, Thompson (6)

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ST: Sundberg, Rocca, Gano

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No way they keep seven wideouts. Last year they had six. I think Niles Paul is headed for the PS. I have no argument with your player selections -- though there has to be one more dude who makes it. Probably linebacker; last year they had nine.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

No way they keep seven wideouts. Last year they had six. I think Niles Paul is headed for the PS. I have no argument with your player selections -- though there has to be one more dude who makes it. Probably linebacker; last year they had nine.

Paul doesn't make it to the PS, another team will scoop him up on waivers. That's the only reason he stays on the 53 I think. With Banks, I agree with what KI Skins Fan said, he is really only a KR but WR is his position group. He won't see any actual time at WR though.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Paul doesn't make it to the PS, another team will scoop him up on waivers. That's the only reason he stays on the 53 I think. With Banks, I agree with what KI Skins Fan said, he is really only a KR but WR is his position group. He won't see any actual time at WR though.

Well, if they do, I'm not exactly going to put a pistol in my mouth ... Niles Paul has good speed, good size, but there just weren't any absolute stand-out plays from him. (Same goes for Leonard Hankerson, btw) To me, that's the best way to make sure you don't get put on the practice squad.

His best chance would have been to take the place of Anthony Armstrong -- in my mind, he was the one guy among the "guaranteed to make the roster" who might have been on the outside looking in. But I just don't think that happened.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Paul doesn't make it to the PS, another team will scoop him up on waivers. That's the only reason he stays on the 53 I think. With Banks, I agree with what KI Skins Fan said, he is really only a KR but WR is his position group. He won't see any actual time at WR though.

Im not sold on another team signing him off our PS, but id rather keep him over Hankerson and Stallworth.... just not sure if i would want Hankerson over Stallworth. I honestly dont think a team would sign Hankerson off our PS.

Also im sold on Banks making the team. If we try and put him on IR he's not going to clear waivers. You can say that he's not a dedicated WR and that we’ll still keep 6 in addition to him but the truth is the spot has to come from somewhere, and WR is the most like source.

If we are forced to keep Paul then holding onto Hankerson would be a complete waste of a roster spot. Rarely if ever are we going to activate more than 5 wideouts especially with 2 very good receiving tight ends that are going to be normally activated in addition to Banks as adedicated KR. Honestly I think well only have 4 on most game days that Banks is also activated.

So Moss, Gafnee, Armstrong, Austin and Paul will be the regular rotation with the latter 3 also playing special teams when activated. So IF we keep 6 WR, in addition to a dedicated KR, whos the 6th player? Id personally take the gamble of adding Hankerson to our PS and keeping Stallworth. Stallworth could easily step in as our 4th WR and by mid season push for 3. Hankerson will be lucky to be active more than twice this year.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Im not sold on another team signing him off our PS, but id rather keep him over Hankerson and Stallworth.... just not sure if i would want Hankerson over Stallworth. I honestly dont think a team would sign Hankerson off our PS.

Also im sold on Banks making the team. If we try and put him on IR he's not going to clear waivers. You can say that he's not a dedicated WR and that we’ll still keep 6 in addition to him but the truth is the spot has to come from somewhere, and WR is the most like source.

If we are forced to keep Paul then holding onto Hankerson would be a complete waste of a roster spot. Rarely if ever are we going to activate more than 5 wideouts especially with 2 very good receiving tight ends that are going to be normally activated in addition to Banks as adedicated KR. Honestly I think well only have 4 on most game days that Banks is also activated.

So Moss, Gafnee, Armstrong, Austin and Paul will be the regular rotation with the latter 3 also playing special teams when activated. So IF we keep 6 WR, in addition to a dedicated KR, whos the 6th player? Id personally take the gamble of adding Hankerson to our PS and keeping Stallworth. Stallworth could easily step in as our 4th WR and by mid season push for 3. Hankerson will be lucky to be active more than twice this year.

Hankerson has been getting better the last 2 games and will make the team, you just don't cut a 3rd round pick after one year.

[T.O.Killa]

I have been thinking that if Logan Paulson gets cut and cellars serves as our back up tight end and fullback. That would help them keep more runningbacks and recievers.

[Player_HTTR]

I would rather keep Paulson at TE/FB than Sellers as FB\TE. I know he hasn't played at FB and that I am being silly a little. I have hard time keeping Sellers around after the past couple years and Paulson has been solid in everything I have seen him do.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Player_HTTR

I would rather keep Paulson at TE/FB than Sellers as FB\TE. I know he hasn't played at FB and that I am being silly a little. I have hard time keeping Sellers around after the past couple years and Paulson has been solid in everything I have seen him do.

Agreed, Paulson is good at the GL. Sellers has had some trouble making catches in the past couple of season...a lot of big drops. He's done. Loved his play when he was still capable, but his play has regressed.

Keiland Williams will be a fine backup FB. Darrell Young is an exciting player, especially when he gets the ball in the open field. He should be our next Sellers...possibly better for many years to come.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I have been thinking that if Logan Paulson gets cut and cellars serves as our back up tight end and fullback. That would help them keep more runningbacks and recievers.

Paulsen is probably a lock too. There's not been much whispering that he gets cut.

[12thMan]

Banks is a lock, no other way around that. A guy punches in a 95 yarder, he's doing what he's hired to do and then some.

Rob Jackson did himself a lot of good last night, even if it was against the second stringers. I think it's going to be hard to keep him off the field.

The more I see Paulsen out there, the more I like him. He reminds me of one of those old school Redskins. He just shows up and puts in work. No flash, no sizzle but he he knows how to put a hat on his guy and move him.

Jammal Brown has very quietly had a solid preseason. Anytime his hip issues aren't flaring up, that's a good thing. I hope he can stay healthy down the stretch.

At this point, I think Donte Stallworth is really auditioning for a job on someone else's roster. Don't get me wrong, he'd be a great addition but he's simply not a part of our long-term plans and this year it's a numbers game at wide receiver. I'm pretty sure he'll land on his feet somewhere.

Mike Sellers had a really good last outing, but I still don't see where he fits at the expense of a marginal upgrade and letting go of someone really young that has a future in this league. I guess the question is what one position is Mike Sellers really impacting that hasn't already been locked down by someone else? I can't think of one. If the argument is depth, then I'm not sure that's a good enough argument to keep a 37 year old fullback.

[Mechanix544]

perry riley will make the team. as will austin and paul. i have a feeling that fox could slide into the 53 as well. it will be very interesting that is for sure.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

perry riley will make the team. as will austin and paul. i have a feeling that fox could slide into the 53 as well. it will be very interesting that is for sure.

Just curious ... what have you seen from Perry Riley that makes you so sure he makes the team?

[mlmpetert]

You know whats great, a lot of the tough decision our team has to make this year are because we have a lot of very quality players and some very promising young depth. Feels good.

[KI Skins Fan]

A contending team might decide to go with the veteran Stallworth over the rookie Paul. We're not a contending team, IMO. We're building our team and I don't think that Stallworth separated himself enough during the preseason to take a spot on a building team away from a talented younger receiver. In this case, I think the younger player gets the roster spot because of the team's stage of development.