Laron Landry - Redskin for life?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Doughty is as good as LL?

That's laughable.

For real. Doughty is a career backup.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Doughty is as good as LL?

That's laughable.

Laughable? yes. If LL was healthy no way Doughty is as good. But from what I see with LL being out so much recently, and when they both are playing close to the line as a SS what they provide is not much different from the other. Both make takles, both force rush the QB, both screw up on occasion by being in the wrong place or rather getting out of position.

So ... yes about as good.

[The Goat]

If this franchise pays LL $7 million to keep him another year I'll have suspend my fanhood until the Snyder era ends. He's worth league minimum at this point and nothing more. He's a dumb player, I mean literally dumb in that he doesn't have the intelligence to read the offense and anticipate anything. So despite his physical ability Landry is often a step or two late on the play. He's also dumb in his behavior, antics etc, which is just absurd for such an underwhelming player.

Edit: I think Landry is actually one of the dumbest players I've seen in a long time. Keep in mind when his physical ability deteriorates he's worthless.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by The Goat

If this franchise pays LL $7 million to keep him another year I'll have suspend my fanhood until the Snyder era ends. He's worth league minimum at this point and nothing more. He's a dumb player, I mean literally dumb in that he doesn't have the intelligence to read the offense and anticipate anything. So despite his physical ability Landry is often a step or two late on the play. He's also dumb in his behavior, antics etc, which is just absurd for such an underwhelming player.

Edit: I think Landry is actually one of the dumbest players I've seen in a long time. Keep in mind when his physical ability deteriorates he's worthless.

I found something else that gets my goat.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by The Goat

If this franchise pays LL $7 million to keep him another year I'll have suspend my fanhood until the Snyder era ends. He's worth league minimum at this point and nothing more. He's a dumb player, I mean literally dumb in that he doesn't have the intelligence to read the offense and anticipate anything. So despite his physical ability Landry is often a step or two late on the play. He's also dumb in his behavior, antics etc, which is just absurd for such an underwhelming player.

Edit: I think Landry is actually one of the dumbest players I've seen in a long time. Keep in mind when his physical ability deteriorates he's worthless.

He is good for a blitz but that is about it. I thought he was good too though at the time. I see why they drafted him but what a let down. For that matter most the highlight film on him was when he was blitzing. Maybe he should do that because he can't do much else but occasionally fly thru the air and lay a good hit on someone. Then when people see that they think he is awesome.

For every flight he takes he misses more than he hits. Now London Fletcher is an example of a great player although he is a LB. Landry isn't even close to his playmaking and tackling skills. But some people love the way he imitates an airplane and defend him no matter what. Emotional analysis instead of honest critique

Good to see him doing charity work. He deserves some credit for that. Good job Laron.

[MTK]

League min?

Right.

[MTK]

I'm talking all things equal and both guys are healthy, LL is the superior player.

Of course Doughty is better at this moment, LL hasn't even been playing and is now on IR.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm talking all things equal and both guys are healthy, LL is the superior player.

Of course Doughty is better at this moment, LL hasn't even been playing and is now on IR.

Board Games or an IQ test im taking Doughty by 32 horse lengths.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm talking all things equal and both guys are healthy, LL is the superior player.

Of course Doughty is better at this moment, LL hasn't even been playing and is now on IR.

I think we are on the same page.

I like LL. He looks like a machine. He should be the next Terminator but ... and it's a big but, LL is not FS material. He's SS material. I don't care what position he played in college cause it's a lot different in the NFL.

and yes Doughty is a back up. Which is why it's sad to say that both make the same mistakes. Both are decent tacklers when in the right place at the right time but both have a tendency to get out of position or use poor tackling skills at times. Otherwise both can stop the run.

Neither play well as a FS. Which is why on my list of positions to draft I keep saying I feel FS is more important right now then CB. With a bonified FS there would be more help over the top for the CB's which would make our secondary better.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm talking all things equal and both guys are healthy, LL is the superior player.

Of course Doughty is better at this moment, LL hasn't even been playing and is now on IR.

Matty this is precisely the reason Landry isn't worth more than a minimal risk to the team. He's been gimpy for two consecutive seasons now and as SS mentioned seems to have chosen treatments that are not the most reliable.

And again I don't think it can be overstated how far Landry regresses when his physical ability is less than perfect...he's not a player who can make up for it with his brains.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Matty this is precisely the reason Landry isn't worth more than a minimal risk to the team. He's been gimpy for two consecutive seasons now and as SS mentioned seems to have chosen treatments that are not the most reliable.

And again I don't think it can be overstated how far Landry regresses when his physical ability is less than perfect...he's not a player who can make up for it with his brains.

Before contract talks even begin, he would of course have to be cleared medically and the team would know if he is a medical risk or not. If he's ok, I expect he would be re-signed to a multi-year deal. If he's a medical risk they have a decision to make.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Before contract talks even begin, he would of course have to be cleared medically and the team would know if he is a medical risk or not. If he's ok, I expect he would be re-signed to a multi-year deal. If he's a medical risk they have a decision to make.

The problem is Landry has to decide pretty much right away (and as of last night, he hadn't officially decided from what I heard) whether to undergo the surgery.

And even then it might be too late. He's going to be in a boot for up to 4 months after surgery (as I understand it) and then we're talking probably June or July before he can really do anything truly physical again.

I'm no doctor, but unfortunately it seems that the Redskins (or whoever) have to make a guess on Landry next spring

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The problem is Landry has to decide pretty much right away (and as of last night, he hadn't officially decided from what I heard) whether to undergo the surgery.

And even then it might be too late. He's going to be in a boot for up to 4 months after surgery (as I understand it) and then we're talking probably June or July before he can really do anything truly physical again.

I'm no doctor, but unfortunately it seems that the Redskins (or whoever) have to make a guess on Landry next spring

It's really hard to imagine our FO re-signing him to a multi-year deal given the situation as you put it...let alone an outside franchise LMAO!

How's that dialogue w/ the agent go?

Agent: "So my client is looking for a solid multi-year deal but he's just not sure when he'll ever be physically able to play again...did I mention he was a 6th overall pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Anyone listening: ".......click"

[coggs]

I voted, "absolutely", but I do not want to see the Redskins improve.

[NC_Skins]

LOL@ this "NFL vet min wage" and the "Doughty is better than LL" talk.