Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

[That Guy]

my price is $5. If I see a DVD I like for $5 or less, I'll buy it. $10 for Blu-ray.

That's the price where it's just easier to buy it. For games its $5-20, depending on quality... for metal bands it's I'll show up at your show.

and creativity isn't dead, hollywood has always liked remakes (charley chaplan plays the same guy in about 42786 different movies, indy and star wars had 3 movies each in the 80s, evil dead had 3 (and evil dead was pretty much exactly the same), ghostbusters, batman in the 90s, etc.

there's still the donnie darkos, the inceptions, the mon oncle ameriques, run lola run, etc etc etc.

[Dirtbag59]

Also consider this. If the MPAA and RIAA had gotten their way to begin with here's some of the things that wouldn't have happened.

First of all we wouldn't have had VCR's and Tape recorders and as a result we wouldn't have DVD's and burnable disc. Hollywood claimed in the beginning that VCR's would ruin them. Now they can't fathom being without their home video sales.

The MP3 player would have never hit the market had the RIAA won it's suit against Diamond's Rio Player, and Apple, one of the biggest contributors to the economy would never have experienced a renaissance seeing as how the capital to contribute to R&D on the iPhone and iPad would have never been generated without the money earned from the iPod.

Furthermore the I-Tunes store wouldn't have emerged which offered individual tracks at the reasonable price of $0.99. Streaming services like Netflix would have either never been invented or wouldn't have emerged until recently.

YouTube would have been dead a long time ago.

TiVo? Forget it. On demand? Gone. Hulu? Watch the damn show when we tell you to watch it. Pandora? Maybe, but it would have been on the RIAA's terms.

And had SOPA passed we would have had extremely watered down versions of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Redit, and many other key sites that people use. Also who knows what next great innovation we saved by killing SOPA?

No good comes from giving into these two media cartels. Absolutely NONE. All the jobs and GDP produced by the tech industry was fought by the cartels at EVERY TURN. They have never embraced innovation and have always had to be dragged kicking and screaming. The time has come to let them throw their tantrums in the cereal aisle and pretend like we don't even know who they are.

MPAA: A Medieval Guild, Committed to Fight Progress at Any Cost

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

MPAA: A Medieval Guild, Committed to Fight Progress at Any Cost

I must point out that this ****ing idiot author uses the year 1512 as part of the medieval period when that year is 20 years past the traditionally labelled end of that epoch(1492).

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I must point out that this ****ing idiot author uses the year 1512 as part of the medieval period when that year is 20 years past the traditionally labelled end of that epoch(1492).

To be fair, sometimes people cite 1517, the beginning of the Protestant Reformation, as the end of the medieval period.

But you are right that 1512 is a little random. Either 1492 and 1517 makes a better date.

[mredskins]

[NC_Skins]

^^Bro, I'm terminator on all those areas.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So are you arguing pirating causes the film industry from being original? The film industry hasn't been original long before the internet was even around. I think the majority of movies and plots were derived from books.

No... not what I was saying. Obviously, the movie industry has adapted other mediums to film since its inception. I was simply re-emphasizing your point earlier that the industry has, and always will, gone to retreads. It's where the money is.

Film adapted and transposed many stories from plays, books and short stories and made a profit. Good on 'ya. (Hell, just look at American Dad - a rip of of Family Guy which in turn was a Simpsons rip off)(Also, try and find some good sci-fi that isn't simply a reinvention of a Twilight Zone episode. It's not that easy!) (EDIT: and ... most TZ episodes were adaptions of earlier short stories).

Hell, they didn't even given an Academy Award for Best Original Screen Play until 1940 (Prior to that it was Best Story - and included adaptions).

Really, believe it or not. I was just agreeing with your earlier point.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No... not what I was saying. Obviously, the movie industry has adapted other mediums to film since its inception. I was simply re-emphasizing your point earlier that the industry has, and always will, gone to retreads. It's where the money is.

Hell, they didn't even given an Academy Award for Best Original Screen Play until 1940 (Prior to that it was Best Story - and included adaptions).

Really, believe it or not. I was just agreeing with your earlier point.

Sorry about that. Couldn't tell if you were backing up the point or arguing that piracy did stifle creativity.

[Dirtbag59]

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Just like the War On Drugs a dozen other sites will be ready to take it's place and pretty soon torrents will be replaced with newer, better, and harder to track file-sharing technology. All of which will continue to force content companies to innovate.

Edit: Apparently I spoke to soon.

[That Guy]

still up and working...

[Dirtbag59]

Apparently it could come back if the source code for the site is released and someone else becomes willing to run it.

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