Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

[SBXVII]

Saw this on another site. Would be nice if true.

Per TK via twitter-
@TKextremeskins: 60% chance Skins get some Salary Cap money back at the upcoming Owners meeting

‏@HTTR24_7- (appears to be even more optimistic)
60.1% RT @TKextremeskins: 60% chance Skins get some Salary Cap money back at the upcoming Owners meeting.

[Chico23231]

HTTR24_7 gives this some validity. Def has my attention now.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

HTTR24_7 gives this some validity. Def has my attention now.

I agree. Still, 60% is close to 50/50, so i wont get my hopes up... but its alot better than 0% which is where I thought we were.

Honestly, the penalty was very severe. The NFL made its point with the penalty last year. Why not throw us a frikkin bone in the spirit of maintaining unity and cooperation?

[Chico23231]

the players union should get behind it to remove as much as possible. Shit they know we gonna spend that money

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

the players union should get behind it to remove as much as possible. Shit they know we gonna spend that money

The NFLPA doesnt really care much tbh. Since the cap went down a decent amount due to the CBA, one thing the NFLPA did get right is in the first two years of the current CBA, the NFL reimburses the players any money spent under a salary floor. It is not an individual team floor that we normally see but a floor league wide. I could be wrong, but I believe that number is in the high 90% in terms of percentage of the salary cap that the owners are responsible for reimbursing to the NFLPA if they spend lower than that.

Basically the players get paid regardless of whether the owners go real cheap when there is no individual team cap floor (which I think starts in season 3 of the current CBA).

Editing to add: Now that I think about it, they pulled extra money from when the future TV contracts go into effect to make up for the lost cap space due to the CBA. I doubt the NFL is going to agree to extend that clause about total money to the money pulled forward. With the extra cap space created by that, that may make that clause somewhat obsolete due to enough being already paid to go over that clause amount. So any extra... 5 or 10 mil or whatever... spent by the skins will be over and above that clause. Meaning it adds to what the players make this year. Then the NFLPA would be on board im sure.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

The NFLPA doesnt really care much tbh. Since the cap went down a decent amount due to the CBA, one thing the NFLPA did get right is in the first two years of the current CBA, the NFL reimburses the players any money spent under a salary floor. It is not an individual team floor that we normally see but a floor league wide. I could be wrong, but I believe that number is in the high 90% in terms of percentage of the salary cap that the owners are responsible for reimbursing to the NFLPA if they spend lower than that.

Basically the players get paid regardless of whether the owners go real cheap when there is no individual team cap floor (which I think starts in season 3 of the current CBA).

I think that Chico's point - and I agree with it - is if the money is in Snyder's hands, we will spend 100% of our cap, not just 90%.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I think that Chico's point - and I agree with it - is if the money is in Snyder's hands, we will spend 100% of our cap, not just 90%.

First, check out my edit.

To that point, it doesnt matter. If other teams do spend 90% and we spend 100%, the league would have still reimbursed the union the difference as its a league wide floor. Meaning overall, the players still make the same money because that money would have been paid anyways at the end of the year.

If the skins get 5 mil back but the league is 50 mil below that number, they only reimburse 45 mil to the players. If they give nothing back to the skins, the league reimburses the players 50 mil. Either way, the players piece of the pie never got bigger. It remained the exact same. The only way the NFLPA gets on board is if the extra cap space goes above that clause amount, because then it does add to the players piece of the pie.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Saw this on another site. Would be nice if true.

So when is the owners meeting?

[mbedner3420]

@HTTR24_7: @Mr_Reynolds81 I was just joking with @TKextremeskins .Everyone wants percentages for everything. I have no Idea if they will get cap relief

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

the players union should get behind it to remove as much as possible. Shit they know we gonna spend that money

If I understand it correctly ,the cap went to the other teams in the NFL so wouldn't they spend it as well and why would they give something back?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Giantone

If I understand it correctly ,the cap went to the other teams in the NFL so wouldn't they spend it as well and why would they give something back?

Yes but plenty of teams did not spend the money.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

If I understand it correctly ,the cap went to the other teams in the NFL so wouldn't they spend it as well and why would they give something back?

Two words: Mike Brown.

Some owners don't spend. Giving them more cap space does not mean more money in the pockets of players.

[CultBrennan59]

I'm just going to go into the meetings with a negative attitude, "prepare for the worst hope for the best" If we don't get any money back= more focus on the draft (the right way to build a team). If we do get the money back= great! we can get a better Free Agent and more on the draft

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm just going to go into the meetings with a negative attitude, "prepare for the worst hope for the best" If we don't get any money back= more focus on the draft (the right way to build a team). If we do get the money back= great! we can get a better Free Agent and more on the draft

I agree with this, couldnt have put it better.