The everything Gruden thread

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Stop blaming the fan base! We're just like any other fan base and we don't influence Dan Snyder's decisions.

Hold on just a second and I'll test out your "The Fan Base Is To Blame" theory.

Dear Dan Snyder: I say you should fire Jay Gruden because of the loss to the Colts.

Wait, Dan Snyder just responded.

Dear KI: **** you! I'm not firing anybody because some dumb ass fan said I should.

See?

Nobody said or implied the fanbase was to blame in any of this. What was simply said is Dan Snyder is very much like our fanbase.

1) He's irrational and makes hasty decisions
2) He doesn't understand how to run an organization
3) Ideas suggested generally end up a disaster
4) Always chasing the "big name"

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Nobody said or implied the fanbase was to blame in any of this. What was simply said is Dan Snyder is very much like our fanbase.

1) He's irrational and makes hasty decisions
2) He doesn't understand how to run an organization
3) Ideas suggested generally end up a disaster
4) Always chasing the "big name"

OK. I stand corrected on the blame issue.

However, you did say that our fan base is very much like Dan Snyder and because of that they "deserve" the inept owner of the Redskins. I disagree.

I don't think that Redskins fans are any different than the fans of any other NFL team. I think most NFL fans are more emotional than rational about their teams. Redskins fans don't deserve to lose because they are like Dan Snyder any more than Patriots fans deserve to win because they are not like Robert Kraft. On the other hand, Dan Snyder may deserve to lose because he runs his organization like a typical NFL fan would run it.

I'd like to think that Redskins fans deserve a better owner but the fact is we have Dan Snyder and there is nothing we can do about it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

OK. I stand corrected on the blame issue.

However, you did say that our fan base is very much like Dan Snyder and because of that they "deserve" the inept owner of the Redskins. I disagree.

I don't think that Redskins fans are any different than the fans of any other NFL team. I think most NFL fans are more emotional than rational about their teams. Redskins fans don't deserve to lose because they are like Dan Snyder any more than Patriots fans deserve to win because they are not like Robert Kraft. On the other hand, Dan Snyder may deserve to lose because he runs his organization like a typical NFL fan would run it.

I'd like to think that Redskins fans deserve a better owner but the fact is we have Dan Snyder and there is nothing we can do about it.

There are plenty of teams out there that do poorly without having an owner like Snyder.

IMO, the problem lies with the people he hired to run the team such as Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, which ironically a lot of people (back when they were first hired) would consider them to be "football people".

So we have gone from terrible yes-men (Cerrato) to "football people" that have failed miserably (Shanahan and Allen), and that's why we've ended up where we are right now.

The problem will not go away if Sndyer goes away, look at the Raiders and how they've fared after Al Davis' passing. The problem will go away when Snyder hires the right person to run the team. It is obvious now that he has hired the wrong person twice (yet many of us were okay with these hiring before).

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The problem will go away when Snyder hires the right person to run the team. It is obvious now that he has hired the wrong person twice (yet many of us were okay with these hiring before).

Twice? Snyder is working on the NFL owner record for bad hires. Not to mention that fired someone who might have been the right person (Schottenheimer).

[Rotten1980]

Rabble rabble rabble!!

Snyder has shown pretty remarkable restraint. You hear other owners/franchises leak when a coach is failing as Gruden has to put them on notice, but nothing from Snyder. He's stayed totally professional.

These last four games should tell the story. The next game is a must win, the Rams. If Gruden continues to field an unprepared team/offense that can't put more than 2 quarters of pro football together, nobody should blame Snyder for finding another HC after the season. Why? Because solid HC's are found every damn season, even by historically bad franchises.

Hopefully we destroy the Rams!! Even though we're out of the playoffs I feel like this is the most important game of the season.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Rabble rabble rabble!!

Snyder has shown pretty remarkable restraint. You hear other owners/franchises leak when a coach is failing as Gruden has to put them on notice, but nothing from Snyder. He's stayed totally professional.

These last four games should tell the story. The next game is a must win, the Rams. If Gruden continues to field an unprepared team/offense that can't put more than 2 quarters of pro football together, nobody should blame Snyder for finding another HC after the season. Why? Because solid HC's are found every damn season, even by historically bad franchises.

Hopefully we destroy the Rams!! Even though we're out of the playoffs I feel like this is the most important game of the season.

No one is buying crazy on the warpath.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Rabble rabble rabble!!



Snyder has shown pretty remarkable restraint. You hear other owners/franchises leak when a coach is failing as Gruden has to put them on notice, but nothing from Snyder. He's stayed totally professional.



These last four games should tell the story. The next game is a must win, the Rams. If Gruden continues to field an unprepared team/offense that can't put more than 2 quarters of pro football together, nobody should blame Snyder for finding another HC after the season. Why? Because solid HC's are found every damn season, even by historically bad franchises.



Hopefully we destroy the Rams!! Even though we're out of the playoffs I feel like this is the most important game of the season.

How are you going to root for the Skins and for Gruden to be fired?


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[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Rabble rabble rabble!!

Snyder has shown pretty remarkable restraint. You hear other owners/franchises leak when a coach is failing as Gruden has to put them on notice, but nothing from Snyder. He's stayed totally professional.

These last four games should tell the story. The next game is a must win, the Rams. If Gruden continues to field an unprepared team/offense that can't put more than 2 quarters of pro football together, nobody should blame Snyder for finding another HC after the season. Why? Because solid HC's are found every damn season, even by historically bad franchises.

Hopefully we destroy the Rams!! Even though we're out of the playoffs I feel like this is the most important game of the season.

Please stop! Jay Gruden is not going to be fired after 1 year.. To think he should be is truley moranic.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Brody81

Please stop! Jay Gruden is not going to be fired after 1 year.. To think he should be is truley moranic.

Yeah. I have questioned Gruden through out the season, but stop well short of firing him after one season.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Rabble rabble rabble!!

Snyder has shown pretty remarkable restraint. You hear other owners/franchises leak when a coach is failing as Gruden has to put them on notice, but nothing from Snyder. He's stayed totally professional.

These last four games should tell the story. The next game is a must win, the Rams. If Gruden continues to field an unprepared team/offense that can't put more than 2 quarters of pro football together, nobody should blame Snyder for finding another HC after the season. Why? Because solid HC's are found every damn season, even by historically bad franchises.

Hopefully we destroy the Rams!! Even though we're out of the playoffs I feel like this is the most important game of the season.

If not putting out negative messages about a coach after only 12 games is "remarkable restraint," I'd hate to see what true patience looks like.

If pushing to have RGIII play when neither coach nor many players think he is ready is "remarkable restraint," I'd hate to see what true patience looks like.

SnyderCroniesAllen is (note the singular) more problem than solution.

[Rotten1980]

That was posted yesterday, old news buddy.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Grading Jay Gruden and the Washington Redskins Coaching

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

Grading Jay Gruden and the Washington Redskins Coaching

Another Bleacher Report. Zero facts based reporting

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

Grading Jay Gruden and the Washington Redskins Coaching

Spot on write up. Gruden's love affair with the passing attack was a problem back in Cincy and even more with our Skins, given the oline's shitty pass protection and above average run blocking.

Still cringe thinking about Gruden calling a pass on that 4th and short, fucking facepalm.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Spot on write up. Gruden's love affair with the passing attack was a problem back in Cincy and even more with our Skins, given the oline's shitty pass protection and above average run blocking.

Still cringe thinking about Gruden calling a pass on that 4th and short, fucking facepalm.

I don't suppose the Shanahans were called a problem for calling this play, with the same problems on our OL.

Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III to Niles Paul 29-yard TD - NFL Videos

(edited to be nicer.)