Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Locker Room Main Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-20-2017, 11:01 AM   #136
KI Skins Fan
Pro Bowl
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville, Forida
Posts: 6,398
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
This would be a terrible move...I think we are close and I really hope no drastic moves are made outside of firing Bruce Allen, which I would totally be in favor of.

Signing Cousins and keeping him with Jay is the best path forward.
Unfortunately, this is the drastic move that is least unlikely to happen. Looking at the big picture, I can't bring myself to believe that the current FO can continue the path that Scot put us on. Smithers is an empty suit and Doug Williams is a figurehead.
__________________
I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 11-20-2017, 11:16 AM   #137
irish
Playmaker
 
irish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,575
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
This would be a terrible move...I think we are close and I really hope no drastic moves are made outside of firing Bruce Allen, which I would totally be in favor of.

Signing Cousins and keeping him with Jay is the best path forward.
I agree.
irish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 11:47 AM   #138
Meks
Pro Bowl
 
Meks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South Jersey
Age: 39
Posts: 5,648
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Coaching is a major issue. Gruden didn't learn A FUCKING THING from the 9ers game...... Just get a first fucking down you douchebag!!!!!! - He's fucking fired for a repeat gutless spineless failed attempt to close a fucking game. Gone.
__________________
R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR
Meks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 11:57 AM   #139
NC_Skins
Gamebreaker
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14,420
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by over the mountain View Post
I dont blame Gruden for not wanting to run behind Nysehke/Roullier/Scerff in that situation. We had passed the ball on 4th-n-short before.

Our HC, OC, DC (in fairness) only sucked for the last 6 mins of the second half. Before that, they we 15 up on a 7-2 home team. Having Spaight/Hall up the middle defense was a huge weak spot and Payton exploited it and we didnt cover it up.
-------------------------------------------------------------



Watching it live, I thought it was intentional grounding .. but seeing this, clearly he is in no "imminent loss of yards".

Brutal call. Shouldnt have let the game get to that point.

Had that fucking idiot Vernon Davis caught that pass, this wouldn't even have been an issue. Two HUGE drops from VD. Need more consistency. Does no good if you make a play and then fuck up 3.
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty
NC_Skins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:16 PM   #140
Buffalo Bob
The Starter
 
Buffalo Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
Age: 63
Posts: 2,137
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meks View Post
Coaching is a major issue. Gruden didn't learn A FUCKING THING from the 9ers game...... Just get a first fucking down you douchebag!!!!!! - He's fucking fired for a repeat gutless spineless failed attempt to close a fucking game. Gone.

I think his 25-31-1 record with the Skins speaks for itself. Also during his tenure injuries seem to be higher than league average. I think that could be more than bad luck. Could the training staff be the issue? Team doctors? Players having too much contact in practice or too little? I think the injuries are more than just coincidence. Fans that say the Redskins are on the right path with the Gruden-Cousins combo probably don't set the bar very high.
Buffalo Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:21 PM   #141
KI Skins Fan
Pro Bowl
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville, Forida
Posts: 6,398
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

As a reminder, here's what Scot McCloughan had to say about Kirk's ceiling on 106.7 The Fan radio in May of this year:

"His ceiling is where it's at right now," McCloughan told hosts Grant Paulsen and Danny Rouhier. “He’s a good player who has proven he can win a division and that’s hard to find -- and a chance for two years in a row to go to the playoffs. That’s what you’re looking for.”

It’s what the Redskins have -- and yet no offer has come close to getting a deal done. But the reasons why also can be found in McCloughan’s comments, reiterating points he made when he was still in charge. The Redskins need to make sure they can afford players at other positions, too. That’s something even coach Jay Gruden has mentioned in the past as well. It’s always been central to the issue.

"Everyone says it’s the most important position on the field," McCloughan said. “I understand he touches the ball every snap, but it’s the guys around him. If you’re paying the quarterback, then you’re losing an offensive lineman, you’re going to lose the defensive lineman, you’re going to lose the corner. With the cap, you can’t afford it."
__________________
I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:23 PM   #142
KI Skins Fan
Pro Bowl
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville, Forida
Posts: 6,398
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
Had that fucking idiot Vernon Davis caught that pass, this wouldn't even have been an issue. Two HUGE drops from VD. Need more consistency. Does no good if you make a play and then fuck up 3.
Davis injured his right hand shortly before he dropped that high pass.
__________________
I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:29 PM   #143
metalskins
The Starter
 
metalskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,464
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
This would be a terrible move...I think we are close and I really hope no drastic moves are made outside of firing Bruce Allen, which I would totally be in favor of.

Signing Cousins and keeping him with Jay is the best path forward.

Agreed. I'm tired of the constant merry-go-round of coaches. Gruden hasn't been the worst coach we've had. He's probably had more success in the short term than any of our other coaches not named Joe Gibbs. This season, in my opinion, is all on Bruce Allen. He is the one who needs to be fired. Scot McCloughan needs to be rehired and given full control over player and coaching personnel. He's a true football guy, and a true football guy would've probably had the team better prepared for the rash of injuries we sustained (and still sustaining) this year. I better football guy would've seen value in keeping at least one of two 1000 yard receivers on the team.
__________________
Reserved for a witty signature.
metalskins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:34 PM   #144
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 34,505
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by metalskins View Post
Agreed. I'm tired of the constant merry-go-round of coaches. Gruden hasn't been the worst coach we've had. He's probably had more success in the short term than any of our other coaches not named Joe Gibbs. This season, in my opinion, is all on Bruce Allen. He is the one who needs to be fired. Scot McCloughan needs to be rehired and given full control over player and coaching personnel. He's a true football guy, and a true football guy would've probably had the team better prepared for the rash of injuries we sustained (and still sustaining) this year. I better football guy would've seen value in keeping at least one of two 1000 yard receivers on the team.
lets all remember...Bruce and Dan turned down Cousins counteroffer at $19 million per year a couple years ago. Bruce should be fired based on that.
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:51 PM   #145
metalskins
The Starter
 
metalskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,464
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
lets all remember...Bruce and Dan turned down Cousins counteroffer at $19 million per year a couple years ago. Bruce should be fired based on that.
Exactly. They talk about Jerry Jones possibly having to put the Cowboys up for sell because of him being a detriment to the league. I am hoping Dan Snyder becomes outspokenly in favor of Jones that he gets in the cross-hairs as well, lol! At least puts Bruce Allen out there as a sacrifice!
__________________
Reserved for a witty signature.
metalskins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:54 PM   #146
skinsfan69
Living Legend
 
skinsfan69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 17,281
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

I don't think Allen is going anywhere. He's the perfect guy for Snyder and will probably work here as long as he wants. Think about the last time you've heard a peep out of Snyder? I can't even remember when he's actually talked to anyone. Allen is Synder's henchman.
skinsfan69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 12:57 PM   #147
skinsfan69
Living Legend
 
skinsfan69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 17,281
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
Had that fucking idiot Vernon Davis caught that pass, this wouldn't even have been an issue. Two HUGE drops from VD. Need more consistency. Does no good if you make a play and then fuck up 3.
Again, the game should never have come down to overtime. You let a team go 80 yards in 4 plays in like 5 seconds. There really is no excuse for that. It's a total breakdown of coaching and execution.
skinsfan69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 01:01 PM   #148
sdskinsfan2001
Living Legend
 
sdskinsfan2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hanahan, South Carolina
Age: 41
Posts: 20,144
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Bruce Allen is to Dan Snyder what Roger Goodell is to all the owners. He'll probably get a raise.

I'd love for Doug Williams to be the GM and let him make the call on Gruden and all the coaches. And to sit with Cousins and figure this shit out. Too bad Allen is Synders loverboy.

Its not like Gruden is some young new coach, he's been here a few years now and in the NFL for a while. I rememeber Bengals fans being glad he left due to similar issues in playcalling.

I want a defensive head coach that hires a young up and coming OC. Obviously he'd want his own DC too, so Manusky would be gone by default. I get not wanting constant change. But not making a change in this situation only for the sake of not making change isn't a good idea imho
__________________
"You can be my wingman anytime."
"Bulls**t. You can be mine."
sdskinsfan2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 01:04 PM   #149
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 34,505
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Deangelo Hall grade from PFF yesterday:

S DeAngelo Hall, 24.6 overall grade

Hall’s day was about as bad as it gets for a safety. He missed three of his eight tackle attempts and allowed all four of his targets to be completed for 67 yards and a touchdown


24.6 ? FFS, why is he on the field?
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2017, 01:11 PM   #150
skinsfaninok
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UNITED STATES
Age: 38
Posts: 36,137
Re: Heartbreak City: Redskins-Saints Postgame Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
Deangelo Hall grade from PFF yesterday:

S DeAngelo Hall, 24.6 overall grade

Hall’s day was about as bad as it gets for a safety. He missed three of his eight tackle attempts and allowed all four of his targets to be completed for 67 yards and a touchdown


24.6 ? FFS, why is he on the field?
he's old and needs to retire.
__________________
“Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.”
― Nick Saban
skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28315 seconds with 10 queries