Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This thread should be titled the off-season over-reaction thread.



Let me know if Trent holds out when it costs him actual money. Or when he bashes the front office for his medical treatment. Until then, JLC and Morgan Moses don't have near enough street cred to make this a real story.

Im pretty sure TW has enough in his savings account to hold out. Lol. And not sure what street cred has to do with a teammate knowing the scoop but I hope you are right. Ill stick with my gut and say he is done.

[rocnrik]

My guess is at end of season he was checked out by team doc and the growth was there and the team doc down played it ..nothing to worry about etc.. then he gets a second opinion and they believe at that point it is way more serious and it scares him .. but what I dont get is this...we are being told that it was not serious and the growth was removed ... okay so what’s the issue?? ( I’m totally speculating like everybody else but if this is really about the handling of the growth and it was in the end nothing serious why all the uproar?? Do any of you believe this could be related to any drug test forthcoming? There is something more to this ..

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

My guess is at end of season he was checked out by team doc and the growth was there and the team doc down played it ..nothing to worry about etc.. then he gets a second opinion and they believe at that point it is way more serious and it scares him .. but what I dont get is this...we are being told that it was not serious and the growth was removed ... okay so what’s the issue?? ( I’m totally speculating like everybody else but if this is really about the handling of the growth and it was in the end nothing serious why all the uproar?? Do any of you believe this could be related to any drug test forthcoming? There is something more to this ..

Not speculating at all about why. I have no idea. Just know that it is the Skins so it will turn out as terrible as possible and will ultimately be because of complete mismanagement of something. Again a result of the fish rotting from the head down.
Im going to say no to the drug test, because even if that were forthcoming and he knew it was bad how would any of this right that ship? It is 110 percent believable that this organization mismanaged a situation and pissed him off. Wouldn’t be the first time, and it will not be the last. Not as long as Captain yacht rock is running the show.

[rocnrik]

I agree that all of this starts at the top ... a culture of mistrust and back stabbing of bad decisions .. now one of our best players has had enough ! We take one step forward and two steps back... same old stuff

[punch it in]

Put in a claim on Desmond Harrison now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

My guess is at end of season he was checked out by team doc and the growth was there and the team doc down played it ..nothing to worry about etc.. then he gets a second opinion and they believe at that point it is way more serious and it scares him .. but what I dont get is this...we are being told that it was not serious and the growth was removed ... okay so what’s the issue?? ( I’m totally speculating like everybody else but if this is really about the handling of the growth and it was in the end nothing serious why all the uproar?? Do any of you believe this could be related to any drug test forthcoming? There is something more to this ..

You don’t think a cancer scare is a big deal for someone?


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[KI Skins Fan]

There isn't enough information for me to form an opinion either way. Besides, I've become acclimated to the constant turmoil that is the NFL. Both sides will do what they do and we'll move on.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

There isn't enough information for me to form an opinion either way. Besides, I've become acclimated to the constant turmoil that is the Redskins. Both sides will do what they do and we'll move on.

Fixed it for u

[Defensewins]

The poll choice above is too over simplified - Pay hm or trade him.
This decision for the team and TW will depend on whether he wants to come back, if so how much he wants, will the be willing to pay and lastly TW's health.
He is under contract so this makes for drama.
However there seems to be a disconnect between the players and the coaches/team doctors and the front office. This needs to get fixed yesterday. Big F for the team to have their best players upset at the way this was handled. But it could get fixed.
Last years debacle of a season has exposed some serious dysfunction in the relationship between the players and the coaches/FO.
What immediately comes to mind is the players that complained about out inept Defensive coordinator all have been cut. Players should have a forum to complain about coaching issues privately and not lose their job. Seems kind of petty/

[Meks]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Put in a claim on Desmond Harrison now.

Saw this late last night and thought the same.thing

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Fixed it for u

No, you didn't. It's an NFL problem. Just look at the recent issues the Raiders, Steelers and Giants had with some of their stars.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

No, you didn't. It's an NFL problem. Just look at the recent issues the Raiders, Steelers and Giants had with some of their stars.

Yeah I know but the skins always have drama

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Put in a claim on Desmond Harrison now.

Agreed.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by MTK

You don’t think a cancer scare is a big deal for someone?


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If course its a big deal! I’m saying if he is upset with the skins doctor is it because they told him it was not serious (which it turned out to be not serious) OR they told him it was serious and scared him! In the end thankfully he will be okay.. until he talks to media nobody really knows.. he has team mates making statements.. I wish Trent would clear it up himself .

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

There isn't enough information for me to form an opinion either way. Besides, I've become acclimated to the constant turmoil that is the NFL. Both sides will do what they do and we'll move on.

This is exactly how i feel, as it relates to the rumors regarding why TW is holding out. They have been all over the place. Some fans are taking a rumor that TW is unhappy about some aspect of the medical care he received for his tumor and cheering TW on as if he is a champion for standing up for himself.

There are three sides to every story. One side, the other side, and then the truth. In this case, we have don't have ANY of the above. We certainly don't have the truth. The redskins haven't said anything. Trent hasn't said anything - from his side all we have are unspecific rumors that provide no details as to what occurred or what, exactly, his potential gripe with the team is.

To "pick a side" at this point and champion it blindly is incredibly stupid.

The only facts we know at this point are that TW:
- Has been one of, if not the best, player on this team for nearly a decade
- has a significant injury history
- is 31
- has 2 years on his contract remaining
- is holding out of camp for a variety of reasons
- two players close to him (AP and Moses) have given completely conflicting reports on why he's not present.
- his coach wants him back

That is really all we KNOW at this point. Based on that, we can hypothetically discuss what his "financial worth" is at this point in his career, but that's it. We simply don't have enough information to "pick a side" as it relates to who has wronged who (if anyone).