Washington Football Team Defense 2021

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by mredskins

LB breakdown, dumpster fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Km7fur2-w

Seeing something like this makes me wonder if it's not a bad idea to move Landon Collins over to LB. We have some young safety depth, but our linebacker play is so poor in pass, that having something a little more familiar in pass coverage (albeit not his forte) may help the defense "catch up", to these plays.

Just seems like the LB's are lost out there, and if we aren't generating pressure or blocking lanes, then their are clear windows to a TE or slot guy is a disasater.

I would think also the D-Line needs to really get their hands up inside passing lanes after they count the mental clock around how many seconds until their typical release is. You don't need 100 sacks to be an effective defense, but you need to disrupt the play.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Seeing something like this makes me wonder if it's not a bad idea to move Landon Collins over to LB. We have some young safety depth, but our linebacker play is so poor in pass, that having something a little more familiar in pass coverage (albeit not his forte) may help the defense "catch up", to these plays.

Just seems like the LB's are lost out there, and if we aren't generating pressure or blocking lanes, then their are clear windows to a TE or slot guy is a disasater.

I would think also the D-Line needs to really get their hands up inside passing lanes after they count the mental clock around how many seconds until their typical release is. You don't need 100 sacks to be an effective defense, but you need to disrupt the play.

My understanding is Collins told them no.

Moving on from Bostic would be a start. Getting a veteran LB who can play and lead this young group would help, but the front office hasn’t delivered.

We all said last year going into the offseason…LB was a focus where we need to get better. Davis draft pick works but needs experience, but there were a lot of options to bring in someone else in free agency.

Obviously not delivering at the position has hurt.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My understanding is Collins told them no.

Moving on from Bostic would be a start. Getting a veteran LB who can play and lead this young group would help, but the front office hasn’t delivered.

We all said last year going into the offseason…LB was a focus where we need to get better. Davis draft pick works but needs experience, but there were a lot of options to bring in someone else in free agency.

Obviously not delivering at the position has hurt.

The bold part is why I'm not fan of Collins (along with his subpar plays), I want players that will do whatever to help the team.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

The bold part is why I'm not fan of Collins (along with his subpar plays), I want players that will do whatever to help the team.

Who cares if he says no. It's either yes or you won't see the field.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My understanding is Collins told them no.

Moving on from Bostic would be a start. .

Local beat reporters confirmed in the offseason they went to Collins about it and he said no.

Just tell him we are playing a 3 safety concept or something like that.

We heard all TC that Collins was back to his pro bowl form, expect Collins to turn heads this year .. blah blah blah ... hes getting 50% of the snaps from these coaches who raved about him all TC.

Bostic -- i think the guy is a fine backup MLB and asking him to start and play these zone coverages on known passing plays isnt fair to him. I feel bad the fans and talking heads are ripping him apart when we are trying to force a dog to be a cat.

[Chico23231]

Jamin Davis is gonna Kyle Pitts his personal bitch this Sunday.

Fuck Kyle Pitts

[punch it in]

[SunnySide]

https://twitter.com/NFL_DougFarrar/s...488753155?s=20

^^ film of that broken coverage long TD for the Falcons.

Same problem we saw last week. Single high safety pre snap. Outside corners drop back into a zone or quaters zone D. Offense targets the lone high safety by having a curl route run in front of him forcing him to make a decision - to pinch down or stay high .. he pinches down leaving the fly guy from the otehr side of the field wide open bc the corner released him thinking he had deep coverage.

Really common NFL play call. target a defender then force him to have to make a decision, QB only has to read that 1 defender and throw ball to guy he decided not to cover.

Really curious on who screwed up here or if it was just a good play call against that particular D call with good execution.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

https://twitter.com/NFL_DougFarrar/s...488753155?s=20

^^ film of that broken coverage long TD for the Falcons.

Same problem we saw last week. Single high safety pre snap. Outside corners drop back into a zone or quaters zone D. Offense targets the lone high safety by having a curl route run in front of him forcing him to make a decision - to pinch down or stay high .. he pinches down leaving the fly guy from the otehr side of the field wide open bc the corner released him thinking he had deep coverage.

Really common NFL play call. target a defender then force him to have to make a decision, QB only has to read that 1 defender and throw ball to guy he decided not to cover.

Really curious on who screwed up here or if it was just a good play call against that particular D call with good execution.

McCain said that he screwed up on this play

[Chief X_Phackter]

What to make of Jamin Davis’ lack of playing time

https://riggosrag.com/2021/10/12/was...-playing-time/

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

What to make of Jamin Davis’ lack of playing time

https://riggosrag.com/2021/10/12/was...-playing-time/

Very good read and one I can get behind.

We as fans expect immediate rewards when drafting in the first and that's not always realistic.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

What to make of Jamin Davis’ lack of playing time

https://riggosrag.com/2021/10/12/was...-playing-time/

It interesting the article reference JOK as being a rookie phenom. We passed on him twice in the draft. I still have reservations on the Davis pick but I am more frustrated with drafting a project in the first than in him as a player.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

It interesting the article reference JOK as being a rookie phenom. We passed on him twice in the draft. I still have reservations on the Davis pick but I am more frustrated with drafting a project in the first than in him as a player.

Parsons is clearly just being asked to play Edge and rush the passer. I dont know what JOKs being asked to do but if is also just being asked to rush the passer on passing plays .. then that is not comparable to what we are asking of Davis.

One thing I learned ... dont expect a rookie to step in at MLB and be your QB on defense. Just a much harder position with information overload for a rookie, especially a green rookie like Davis.

Del Rio also finally swapped collins/curl for an LB on passing plays .. and it worked a bit at 50% completion but we got burned as well.

At lest Del Rio tried something different.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Yes, I am guilty of that in this case. I expected that Davis' snap count would continue to increase, and not seeing him out there much on Sunday was frustrating. I think David Mayo was out there almost as much as Davis.

While the LB crew has not been good, to me the secondary has been the true culprit this year. Like the article said, no one expected them (the secondary) to be this bad - it was supposed to take a step forward, not five steps back.

[punch it in]

The personnel decisions are more worrisome to me than the coaching at this point and the coaching is atrocious. This fuckin regime is clueless im afraid.