Dallas L postgame

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So you are taking the under

My only bet is they don’t win more than 6 games. But if 6 was the number, and i was a gambling man id take the under. Push would be worse case scenario. I wouldn’t lose.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My only bet is they don’t win more than 6 games. But if 6 was the number, and i was a gambling man id take the under. Push would be worse case scenario. I wouldn’t lose.

I was just being flippant but I did hear on Sheehan this morning that the line was 6.5 games so I think you have a future as a Vegas odds maker there.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I second this emotion. Im sick of this team gutting me every Sunday. It isn’t about faith it’s about reality. And the reality is i may root for a perennial loser but i aint no sucker. Haha. Not anymore. They stink.
They may or may not beat Tennessee. Shit happens. But this teams ceiling is 6 wins. You can book that shit.
That is one less than last year, and we were supposed to have cap space, and a full compliment of draft picks and continuity with the staff and blah blah blah. When this world has written its final chapter One of the greatest mysteries will be how Ron Rivera made Jay Grudens football team worse. For fucks sake Zorn once won 8 games. And that was when Snyder and Cerrato were running the damn team and its personnel decisions. Rivera is a really terrible HC, but he is thee worst GM we might ever see

I went into the season expecting losses every week. The Jags did surprise me but didn't change my mind. Gotta admit these losses haven't bothered me as I fully expected them. This team will have one of the 2 top picks in the 2023 draft is and has been my prediction. Oh and I predict 3 wins and would take the under.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

I went into the season expecting losses every week. The Jags did surprise me but didn't change my mind. Gotta admit these losses haven't bothered me as I fully expected them. This team will have one of the 2 top picks in the 2023 draft is and has been my prediction. Oh and I predict 3 wins and would take the under.

Tennessee, Chicago, Indy, Houston. Maybe Atlanta? Thats 5 winnable games evern for us. Id say we win at least two. Usually there is at least one game we win that we have no business winning. Hard to go 0-6 in the division. If I had to put an exact number on wins id say 5. Leaning towards 4, not 6.
Im no longer bothered by the ineptitude either.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Tennessee, Chicago, Indy, Houston. Maybe Atlanta? Thats 5 winnable games evern for us. Id say we win at least two. Usually there is at least one game we win that we have no business winning. Hard to go 0-6 in the division. If I had to put an exact number on wins id say 5. Leaning towards 4, not 6.
Im no longer bothered by the ineptitude either.

I think there’s a little bit of bs in that last sentence,cmon admit it
It’s just went on for so long you’re used to it now,you’ve gotten older and other things are more important,but it still bothers you, or maybe I’m just projecting lmao

[BaltimoreSkins]

From Keim:
On Sunday, Washington ran the ball when Wentz was under center on 18 of 20 snaps. They did average 5.2 yards on those runs; very good. But the one pass completion lost one yard.
Passed the ball on 41 of 50 times when in shotgun. 4.17 per attempt.

IMO this is a problem. The lack of variety here telegraphs to the defense what is coming. I am not a big advocate of running out of shot gun due to lack of acceleration at the handoff, but something needs to be done to make passing/running less noticeable. I also think ST needs to work with CW to step into the "pocket" instead of back peddaling. This will enhance his views of open targets. While I do question whether the o-line can hold a pocket completely they weren't the biggest problem with the offense against Dallas (minus when Leno and Norwell decided to block each other)

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

From Keim:
On Sunday, Washington ran the ball when Wentz was under center on 18 of 20 snaps. They did average 5.2 yards on those runs; very good. But the one pass completion lost one yard.
Passed the ball on 41 of 50 times when in shotgun. 4.17 per attempt.

IMO this is a problem. The lack of variety here telegraphs to the defense what is coming. I am not a big advocate of running out of shot gun due to lack of acceleration at the handoff, but something needs to be done to make passing/running less noticeable. I also think ST needs to work with CW to step into the "pocket" instead of back peddaling. This will enhance his views of open targets. While I do question whether the o-line can hold a pocket completely they weren't the biggest problem with the offense against Dallas (minus when Leno and Norwell decided to block each other)

Yesh ... thats a clear tell.

Wentz is showing happy feet in the pocket, taking these mini steps ... I thought his pocket presence was one of his strengths.

Just give me those quick hit 3-5 step drop plays, back foot plants = ball comes out.

Slants to Terry, double crosses ... easy pitch and catch plays. Feed Terry early.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

From Keim:
On Sunday, Washington ran the ball when Wentz was under center on 18 of 20 snaps. They did average 5.2 yards on those runs; very good. But the one pass completion lost one yard.
Passed the ball on 41 of 50 times when in shotgun. 4.17 per attempt.

IMO this is a problem. The lack of variety here telegraphs to the defense what is coming. I am not a big advocate of running out of shot gun due to lack of acceleration at the handoff, but something needs to be done to make passing/running less noticeable. I also think ST needs to work with CW to step into the "pocket" instead of back peddaling. This will enhance his views of open targets. While I do question whether the o-line can hold a pocket completely they weren't the biggest problem with the offense against Dallas (minus when Leno and Norwell decided to block each other)

If you ever listen to the Kevin Sheehan podcast, he has Chris Cooley on there to break down the games. This was the first thing Cooley pointed out...the success they had running the ball with the zone schemes, but then had no play action or any passing out of that same scheme. So this is the NFL, doesn't take long to figure that out. 2 weeks in a row where Scott Turner has not looked like a competent OC.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

If you ever listen to the Kevin Sheehan podcast, he has Chris Cooley on there to break down the games. This was the first thing Cooley pointed out...the success they had running the ball with the zone schemes, but then had no play action or any passing out of that same scheme. So this is the NFL, doesn't take long to figure that out. 2 weeks in a row where Scott Turner has not looked like a competent OC.

Listened to it. Re-watched it. Spot on.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

If you ever listen to the Kevin Sheehan podcast, he has Chris Cooley on there to break down the games. This was the first thing Cooley pointed out...the success they had running the ball with the zone schemes, but then had no play action or any passing out of that same scheme. So this is the NFL, doesn't take long to figure that out. 2 weeks in a row where Scott Turner has not looked like a competent OC.

Not regularly but I checked out the break down you recommended yesterday. Didn't disagree with Cooley on his assessment.

Side note: I continued to listen to Thursday's podcast and Kevin and Thom are talking about a fan survey of 1,000 ticket holders in which Dan had a 5% positivity rating and Bruce was at 6% and the news out of Ashburn was they were both shocked they were so ill-liked. I was listening and I thought who are these 50-60 idiots that view Dan or Buce positively?!

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Not regularly but I checked out the break down you recommended yesterday. Didn't disagree with Cooley on his assessment.

Side note: I continued to listen to Thursday's podcast and Kevin and Thom are talking about a fan survey of 1,000 ticket holders in which Dan had a 5% positivity rating and Bruce was at 6% and the news out of Ashburn was they were both shocked they were so ill-liked. I was listening and I thought who are these 50-60 idiots that view Dan or Buce positively?!

These people need to be removed from society.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Not regularly but I checked out the break down you recommended yesterday. Didn't disagree with Cooley on his assessment.

Side note: I continued to listen to Thursday's podcast and Kevin and Thom are talking about a fan survey of 1,000 ticket holders in which Dan had a 5% positivity rating and Bruce was at 6% and the news out of Ashburn was they were both shocked they were so ill-liked. I was listening and I thought who are these 50-60 idiots that view Dan or Buce positively?!

Dan was probably pissed that Bruce at 6% positive had a higher positivity rating than he did. That's no doubt why Dan got rid of Bruce: for being such a transparent bastard. If Bruce hadn't been undermining him, Dan could have gotten a 6% positivity rating too.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

If you ever listen to the Kevin Sheehan podcast, he has Chris Cooley on there to break down the games. This was the first thing Cooley pointed out...the success they had running the ball with the zone schemes, but then had no play action or any passing out of that same scheme. So this is the NFL, doesn't take long to figure that out. 2 weeks in a row where Scott Turner has not looked like a competent OC.

I forgot this yesterday but when Cooley was doing his break down he said our WRs have been very bad at creating separation. That might be the most frustrating thing as they are supposed to be the strength of this offense.

At what we know now at this season, Jax defense being better than thought. What di d we do in that game differently to move the ball compared to Philly and Dallas? To me it looks like Curtis Samuel was being used with greater versatility. Having him line up in back field with Gibson etc. This o-line is going to struggle with pass pro I'd love to see some two RB wishbone sets with JD and Gibson have the o-line just push down hill and gain confidence and maybe help the WRs get separation. IDK I am really just grasping at air here.

[sdskinsfan2001]

If you can't step up into the pocket, you can't have success in the NFL. But easier said than done with our guard play and Chase being injured. But what Wentz is doing now is not working. Rather take sacks in the pocket than dropping backwards. That way you lose 5 yards or less. He's taking sacks and intentional groundings that absolutely ruin drives. At this point tho, I don't think it's fixable. He isn't some inexperienced player.

Our offensive line needs a complete overhaul. 3 or 4 new starters. Definitely 2 new guards.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If you can't step up into the pocket, you can't have success in the NFL. But easier said than done with our guard play and Chase being injured. But what Wentz is doing now is not working. Rather take sacks in the pocket than dropping backwards. That way you lose 5 yards or less. He's taking sacks and intentional groundings that absolutely ruin drives. At this point tho, I don't think it's fixable. He isn't some inexperienced player.

Our offensive line needs a complete overhaul. 3 or 4 new starters. Definitely 2 new guards.

I hear ya, Im with ya ... but Im not giving up hope this isnt fixable. I know we hate the staff but weve shown the ability to adjust over a season. In game? After a few games? No way. After 4-8 games .. maybe.

We went into Dallas with the no. 1 goal of not getting sacked 9 times. We accomplished that .. for the most part. How much did winning the "limit sacks" battle cost us the war? Who knows.

Im not giving up hope.

Really thought we could bounce back vs a Cooper Rush offense, with a few games film to prep with.

Deflated after this cowboys loss.