Gov. Spitzer Linked to Prostitution Ring

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

Okay this is my last post on this thread there are to many dense people who will turn it anyway they want.

1)I never said what he did was not a crime, despite that fact some dim bulbs in here think I did.

Your earlier quote: "I already said that if he committed a real crime he should receive the max sentence."

To assert he did not commit a "real crime" seems to be me to be an assertion that his actions were in some way not criminal. Sorry, which words that you use should I assign their traditional definition and which should I understand to be Hijinx definitions?

Originally Posted by Hijinx

2) This is a misdemeanors crime at most. Any federal charges would be a stretch at best. The money laundering would be hard to prove seeing how he wasn't owner of the accounts the money moved to. I can't see a jury conviction on this one. The moving women across state lines thing is a law meant to stop "white" slavery. And has major jail time with it. Can anyone really say the guy deserves 10-12 years for this? Maybe if he killed one of the girls.

I'll let the judge and jury decide what he gets. Again, it's that silly rule of law thing. If he is never charged, or if after charges are filed he goes free, more power to him. It does not change the appropriate public ramifications for the admitted misdeeds of a public official.

Originally Posted by Hijinx

3) My original point remains true. This will be blown up and made into a greater deal then it was, because of party politics and media attention.

If party politics and media play a part in this, it is, again, something this particular political person brought upon himself. He played the high moral card in all of his prior elections. As with all those exposed for hypocrisy, political opponents will seize upon the flaws and the public will be particularly unforgiving.

Originally Posted by Hijinx

4)This is one of those "crimes" that doesn't affect anyone else except Spitzer, the hooker, and his family.(but not much more than if he just cheated)

5)Most of this victimless "crime", (ie. prostitution, most drug use, gambling, etc) are only crimes because someone is imposing their morals on someone else. (see prohibition, that worked well, as is the "war on drugs"

These are both the same point. Essentially - victimless crimes do not affect negatively affect the society as a whole. Rather, they are entirely personal. This is a long-running philisophical battle. I am of the mind that there are no entirely "personal" crimes - particularly crimes involving public officials.

Regardless, you may disagree with whether a particular type of conduct should be criminalized, but it is the society as a whole that makes the decision. Your opinion is your opinion and that fine. The law is the law and unless you can convince enough people to "impose" your opinion on the rest of us then law isn't going to change.

Originally Posted by Hijinx

6) The fact this guy was a dem, doesn't matter to me I didn't think Larry Craig deserved to lose his job either. But leave to some, who wanted to turn everything I say into ,"your just mad because he is a dem" and make personal insults at me.

Again, you opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

Hijinx buddy, I know that you think that people are piling on here but really.... Clinton never had a 90% approval rating. In fact, until Bush HE had the worst approval rating ever of any president.

I know that we talk about kool-aide and how good it tastes, but lay-off the blueberry dude. Don't let your politics blind you.

I must say that I have really enjoyed this thread. And as a male, I do apologize to the ladies of this forum who have been made to feel a bit ambushed and insulted by others of this thread.

i would like to see as link that says this. Bill Clinton enjoyed one of the highest approval ratings of any modern day president . while it did drop during the Lewinski fiasco, it would have had to drop off the face of the earth to reach Bush's plateau. im not sure if there has ever been a more hated president then the one that resides in Washington right now

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i would like to see as link that says this. Bill Clinton enjoyed one of the highest approval ratings of any modern day president . while it did drop during the Lewinski fiasco, it would have had to drop off the face of the earth to reach Bush's plateau. im not sure if there has ever been a more hated president then the one that resides in Washington right now

Here's a cool little link

Approval Highs and Lows - Behind the Numbers

[djnemo65]

When Reagan left office he left with the highest approval rating since FDR, a number which Bill Clinton would actually top 12 years later. Per Wikipedia "Clinton left office with a 65% approval rating, the highest end-of-presidency rating of any President who came into office after World War II."

[jamf]

Here you go:
Ashley Alexandra Dupre

[jamf]

MySpace.com - Ashley Alexandra Dupré - NEW YORK, New York - R&B / Soul / Pop - www.myspace.com/ninavenetta



She doesn't look like Joe Jacoby...

[saden1]

Originally Posted by jamf

MySpace.com - Ashley Alexandra Dupré - NEW YORK, New York - R&B / Soul / Pop - www.myspace.com/ninavenetta



She doesn't look like Joe Jacoby...

She's hot but not 5K hot. I feel sorry for her cause she's the new Monica, a Monica that's too smart to do it for free of course.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by saden1

She's hot but not 5K hot. I feel sorry for her cause she's the new Monica, a Monica that's too smart to do it for free of course.

I guarantee she'll make a killing off of this. A "tell all" book alone would be worth huge amounts of cash. Can you imagine a book about her life and career as a high-dollar hooker and her tryst with the Governor of New York?

That's a cash cow waiting to be milked.

On a different note, I'm not even sure what "$5k/hour hot" would look like. I've had my share of fun, but wouldn't there be an inevitable letdown when the hour(s) are up and you realize you're out $10k +? Maybe why this stuff is best left to the extremely wealthy. Relatively speaking I suppose $5k/hour for them is more like $50/hour for me, which sounds more reasonable.

[SmootSmack]

Alls I know is the pressure to "perform" if you're shelling out $5,000 bucks must be unbelievable.

And I wonder who are clients 1-8

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Alls I know is the pressure to "perform" if you're shelling out $5,000 bucks must be unbelievable.

And I wonder who are clients 1-8

Yeah, wouldn't it be a real bummer to drop $5k and have an off night?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Something about men that have a lot of power.... it often makes them corrupt. Kind of sad really, and weak.

Men with power??? Let me tell you something if you don't already know it. Men with or w/out power like "strange" evey once in a while. It's not right, as a matter of fact it's wrong. But that's just how it is with a lot of men. This doesn't surprise me one bit. He's married to his wife for 20 years and they have 3-4 kids. To him, his wife probably isn't sexy anymore and he wanted something new. As I said, it's not right but IMO it's just human nature.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Alls I know is the pressure to "perform" if you're shelling out $5,000 bucks must be unbelievable.

And I wonder who are clients 1-8

I'd be willing to bet that this type of high class hooker service has clients that are athletes, actors or more politicians.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jamf

Here you go:
Ashley Alexandra Dupre

Just by taking a look at these pictures, I'd be willing to bet that most married men, or men with girlfriends would like to have a night alone with this girl.

[mredskins]

Where is she in that pic? DC waterfront?

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Where is she in that pic? DC waterfront?

I can't believe the location and water frontage is what caught your eye...