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Old 01-17-2010, 10:09 PM   #1
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Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez

This is basically what I was saying about JC earlier in the season. Campbell would be a FINE QB on a team with a stout, opportunistic defense, solid O-Line and running game.

These Jets are basically following the blueprint of the '00 Ravens: win with defense, and get just enough out of your offense to get by. It's probably not surprising given Ryan's history.

Both offenses were mediocre to poor ('09 Jets ranked 17th in points and 24th in yards, while the '00 Ravens were 14th and 16th, respectively), but both had spectacular defenses ('00 Ravens 1st in points allowed and 2nd in yards allowed, while the '09 Jets are 1st in both categories)

The '09 Jets run the ball better than the '00 Ravens did, to the tune of about 40 yards a game, but they pass for about 30 yards per game fewer. The '09 Jets have a team passer rating 10 points lower than the '00 Ravens, which seems hard to believe, considering the Ravens went with the dynamite trio of Banks, Redman, and Dilfer that year.

So Sanchez is serviceale... with the Jets this year. Would he have been equally serviceable behind our Swiss cheese line? I kinda doubt it.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:37 PM   #2
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Sanchez would be in critical condition (still) behind the line Snyder/Ceratto put together.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:53 PM   #3
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Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez

Its pretty simple; If you give your QB a solid OL, for the most part, he will succeed
If you give your QB a poor OL, he will not succeed (unless he's Peyton Manning)
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:21 PM   #4
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Its pretty simple; If you give your QB a solid OL, for the most part, he will succeed
If you give your QB a poor OL, he will not succeed (unless he's Peyton Manning)
or Aaron Rodgers
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:42 AM   #5
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Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez

Great points on Sanchez and the Jets team . I would love to find two pro-bowl OL in this draft , like the jets did w/ Ferguson/Mangold . I would however not pass up a CB like Revis late rd 1 or 2nd < if we trade down > . We could pick up 1 or 2 OL in F/A , as the F/A OL looks strong at this point . A rb and a bad ass LB would be nice also .
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:32 AM   #6
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Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez

I don't get all the hype. He throws the ball 15 times a game and most of the passes are 5 yards. He makes a play here and there but pretty much any NFL QB could play in the Jets offense. Yeah he's a rah rah guy, big deal. I'm not sold on the guy yet. Clearly the Jets defense and running game are winning games, not Sanchez. I'm glad we didn't take him.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:15 PM   #7
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I don't get all the hype. He throws the ball 15 times a game and most of the passes are 5 yards. He makes a play here and there but pretty much any NFL QB could play in the Jets offense. Yeah he's a rah rah guy, big deal. I'm not sold on the guy yet. Clearly the Jets defense and running game are winning games, not Sanchez. I'm glad we didn't take him.
Steelers did the same thing with Ben Rothlisberger his forst year...now look at him 2 championships later!!!
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:07 PM   #8
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Steelers did the same thing with Ben Rothlisberger his forst year...now look at him 2 championships later!!!
Difference is that Roethlisberger was good right out of the gate. 15-1 record along with a 98.1 QB rating. Not saying that Sanchez will be a bust, but we'll see how well he does as he's given more responsibility next year.
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Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez

Rex Ryan has been a great rookie head coach. You really couldn't ask for more out of the guy. He is great for the NY media and has his team ready to play on Sundays. Great Job by everyone on the Jets. That was a team win yesterday.

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Old 01-18-2010, 03:55 PM   #10
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Here's the thing everyone is missing about Sanchez. He made some critical throws yesterday. Most notably, the key 3rd down during the 4th quarter, and the clutch TD pass to put them up 10 to 7. Yes, he only threw for like 93 yards, but most of those passes counted. Sanchez has one receiver, besides Jericho Cotchery he doesn't have a dependable go to guy.

Also, Sanchez is a remarkable leader, his enthusiasm and positive attitude reverberates throughout his entire team. That's something that Jason Campbell is missing. He's to laconic to be a leader in this epoch of the NFL, where leadership at the QB position is vitally important. One of my female friends who's also Redskins fan summed it up like this. "Jason Campbell is the type of guy you want marrying your daughter, not someone to lead you through the hostile trenches of the NFC east"
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Here's the thing everyone is missing about Sanchez. He made some critical throws yesterday. Most notably, the key 3rd down during the 4th quarter, and the clutch TD pass to put them up 10 to 7. Yes, he only threw for like 93 yards, but most of those passes counted. Sanchez has one receiver, besides Jericho Cotchery he doesn't have a dependable go to guy.

Also, Sanchez is a remarkable leader, his enthusiasm and positive attitude reverberates throughout his entire team. That's something that Jason Campbell is missing. He's to laconic to be a leader in this epoch of the NFL, where leadership at the QB position is vitally important. One of my female friends who's also Redskins fan summed it up like this. "Jason Campbell is the type of guy you want marrying your daughter, not someone to lead you through the hostile trenches of the NFC east"
Enthusiasm and positive attitude cannot block defensive lineman. Once again, horrible attitude of Redskins fans to think that if you replace the QB positive, everything will be fine. Maybe Vinny Cerrato has brain washed all fans and lead them to believe that offensive lines are not important.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:49 PM   #12
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Enthusiasm and positive attitude cannot block defensive lineman. Once again, horrible attitude of Redskins fans to think that if you replace the QB positive, everything will be fine. Maybe Vinny Cerrato has brain washed all fans and lead them to believe that offensive lines are not important.
It's horrible that Skins fans place all the blame on the line. Especially when their so called franchise QB can't complete a pass over 10 yards.
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It's horrible that Skins fans place all the blame on the line. Especially when their so called franchise QB can't complete a pass over 10 yards.
No, a few Skins fans are like you, who think the problem lies solely on the QB. Luckily, your boy Vinny is no longer in charge and will build the line and rebuild the team in the next two years. Right now, Campbell is at best a transition QB, and whether he stays here or not will depend on his performance. Regardless, we need to build this damn line if we want to do anything in the passing game (with or without Campbell) and the running game (with our without Portis).
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:11 PM   #14
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No, a few Skins fans are like you, who think the problem lies solely on the QB. Luckily, your boy Vinny is no longer in charge and will build the line and rebuild the team in the next two years. Right now, Campbell is at best a transition QB, and whether he stays here or not will depend on his performance. Regardless, we need to build this damn line if we want to do anything in the passing game (with or without Campbell) and the running game (with our without Portis).
I never said the blame was entirely JC's. I think we all agree that our problems with the offensive line need to be rectified. The in-ability to read a defense has nothing to do with a deplorable line. The inability to hit open receivers down field, even when you have time - can't be blamed on those who're blocking for him. That's the point I was making about Campbell. As you stated he's at best a transition QB. I predict that he'll lose the starting job to Bradford/Clausen before our first regular season game.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:29 PM   #15
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It's horrible that Skins fans place all the blame on the line. Especially when their so called franchise QB can't complete a pass over 10 yards.
This is an old, tired debate. Sanchez is not the reason the Jets are winning, nor has he cost them an important game. He has the same ingredients Flacco had last year, an outstanding D, run game, and OLine. His stats are worse than Campbell by far, but the fact is he is in the Conference championship. If you ask me what that proves, it is that this game is played and won by teams, not by a single positional player. The focus on Campbell or any "skill position" is opposite to this fundamental truth of football, it is a TEAM sport.

I know Shanahan and Allen understand this concept, so if they want to leave JC, a solid team player if not an exceptional qb, I am ok with that. We can do mighty things if we have a leader who is leading our 53 men into the weekly battle.
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