HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player

SmootSmack · 05-21-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Does this have anything to do with that?

Washington D.C. What's good?! about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter

Ha! Didn't see that.

Anyhow, full disclosure, way back when, (Feb/March) when the Saints and Skins were talking about various players Lance Moore was brought up for a minute. It was apparently so brief though that didn't seem like any big deal. But now...could be

tryfuhl · 05-21-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ha! Didn't see that.

Anyhow, full disclosure, way back when, (Feb/March) when the Saints and Skins were talking about various players Lance Moore was brought up for a minute. It was apparently so brief though that didn't seem like any big deal. But now...could be

Nice nice.. I had just run a google search to find out his current contract status/tender and decided to check out his twitter while at it.

Monkeydad · 05-20-2010, 05:00 PM

Would the league really suspend 20+ guys league-wide simultaneously if there ends up being a big list of patients from the NFL with this doc? Doubtful, especially considering there is no test for HGH for the NFL to use, it may be tough to enforce.

The doctor has more to fear than the players.

mlmdub130 · 05-20-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Would the league really suspend 20+ guys league-wide simultaneously if there ends up being a big list of patients from the NFL with this doc? Doubtful, especially considering there is no test for HGH for the NFL to use, it may be tough to enforce.

The doctor has more to fear than the players.

why? if anything i would think goodell would jump at the opportunity to set an example. that is if there is the evidence they are saying there is

Monkeydad · 05-20-2010, 05:21 PM

Even if it all does blow up fast and he gets the 4 games off...

Dallas
Houston
St. Louis
Philly

Not too bad...he's back before tougher games like Indy.

NYCskinfan82 · 05-20-2010, 05:28 PM

All it takes is one of those guys to talk & it makes that list valid. IMO.

SmootSmack · 05-20-2010, 05:32 PM

Santana's already got his defense lined up...he was worried about Brian Cushing's tumor

Dirtbag59 · 05-20-2010, 06:01 PM

Reciever......most.....important.....position..... .Must........sign......T......O!

CRedskinsRule · 05-20-2010, 06:13 PM

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Reciever......most.....important.....position..... .Must........sign......T......O!

Dang. I want to make a Vinny seance comment, but I want us to sign TO so now I don't know what to say or how to say it :confused:

Beemnseven · 05-20-2010, 10:13 PM

Well, Santana is good for disappearing for 4 to 6 games anyway, so ... no big loss.

If this turns about to be true, a big ol' F U goes out to Santana Moss. Should've dumped his ass about three years ago.

tryfuhl · 05-20-2010, 11:08 PM

Redskins Insider - Romanowski praises Galea's healing techniques

and Romanowski is right

redskins121684 · 05-21-2010, 01:20 AM

Romanowski is saying this because he's the poster boy for HGH. He loves that stuff. I think his wife had something like 6 perscriptions for HGH. He's part of that movement toward giving all players access to the hormone. I don't disagree with his reasoning HGH could probably save a lot of players a world of hurt when they are in their forties and fifties but it won't happen. The NFL doesn't want to tackle this thing because they realize HGH is a necessity. The NFL needs its best players to play and one way to achieve that is HGH. They can't publicly endorse a product demonized by organizations like the world anti doping agency. The way you handle it is you turn a blind eyes, you don't test, and you hope players use some kkind of discretion. Rodney Harrison messed up that last part. Santana probably won't be suspended any time soon, the NFL wants to let this thing play out, when have they ever done that under the watchful eye of Goodell, he suspended a player based on sex assault allegations where no charges arose (I am not defending Rapistburger I hate him I only make the point to emphasize Goodell could be described as trigger happy)? This drug is commonplace, moreover it's needed. I don't condone steroid use by a player but HGH isn't steroids and Moss was trying to heal himself. You can make the argument that HGH is performance enhancing but when a player uses the drug to get back to their original performance standard what can you say? You could make the same argument about IVs at halftime. A player gets dehydrated and they take an IV to get rehydrated FASTER, I know IVs are available to every player but at the end of the day most if not all NFL players can afford HGH, even guys making the minimum and they have access, there are always black market guys available to the players to get this stuff. This is a very dicey spot it presents to the NFL players who sought medical treatment and were treated with HGH. Moreover if you say HGH is cheating by a player because it utilizes measures not available to all players to achieve original performance ability then you enter a slippery slope. What of microfracture surgery for players, a procedure that most college programs will not reccomend because it's expensive, Tommy John surgery, knee reconstruction, or joint replacement. Sally Jenkins wrote a great article for the post yesterday and she made a very serious point.

We, as fans, expect more all the time. We expect the threshold for performance to increase all the time. That's unrealistic. The warrior mentality that these guys have, ultimately, leads to their demise. I will not fault a guy for trying to heal his body because he got the snot knocked out of him entertaining me on Sundays, I can't do that, and what's more I don't think the league will do that. HGH isn't steroids it's a whole different animal it does different things to the body.

I think if we want to forecast the league standing on Moss the greatest likelihood is that he will not be suspended at all. The evidence is cirsumstantial and clouded by the defendant. We should realize that in the Harrison case he made an admission in open court, Moss likely will not have to do that, he may go in front of a grand jusry but language is key. He can say things without actually saying things and hopefully that is what he does.

53Fan · 05-21-2010, 12:48 AM

Anyone else notice the "Doctor Prescribed HGH" and "GenF20 HGH Releaser" Google ads below Busters post at the top of the page? It seems to me that like most things it can be abused, but it also can be used in a very beneficial manner. Maybe the NFL should revisit their stance on HGH and how it is used to treat injuries.

tryfuhl · 05-21-2010, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Anyone else notice the "Doctor Prescribed HGH" and "GenF20 HGH Releaser" Google ads below Busters post at the top of the page? It seems to me that like most things it can be abused, but it also can be used in a very beneficial manner. Maybe the NFL should revisit their stance on HGH and how it is used to treat injuries.

Most (well at least text-based) ad networks run content-based ads.

T.O.Killa · 05-21-2010, 12:03 PM

I am pretty sure the Redskins FO knew this was coming. That why they brought in so many reievers. I dont buy Jason Ried's story that this may change their mind about TO. If the sign TO it would not be because they just found this out.

05-20-2010, 05:00 PM	#3
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 47 Posts: 17,460	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Would the league really suspend 20+ guys league-wide simultaneously if there ends up being a big list of patients from the NFL with this doc? Doubtful, especially considering there is no test for HGH for the NFL to use, it may be tough to enforce. The doctor has more to fear than the players. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

05-20-2010, 05:21 PM	#5
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 47 Posts: 17,460	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Even if it all does blow up fast and he gets the 4 games off... Dallas Houston St. Louis Philly Not too bad...he's back before tougher games like Indy. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

05-20-2010, 05:28 PM	#6
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player All it takes is one of those guys to talk & it makes that list valid. IMO.

05-20-2010, 05:32 PM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Santana's already got his defense lined up...he was worried about Brian Cushing's tumor __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-20-2010, 06:01 PM	#8
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Reciever......most.....important.....position..... .Must........sign......T......O! __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

05-20-2010, 10:13 PM	#10
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 52 Posts: 5,311	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Well, Santana is good for disappearing for 4 to 6 games anyway, so ... no big loss. If this turns about to be true, a big ol' *F U* goes out to Santana Moss. Should've dumped his ass about three years ago.

05-20-2010, 11:08 PM	#11
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 42 Posts: 12,514	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Redskins Insider - Romanowski praises Galea's healing techniques and Romanowski is right

05-21-2010, 01:20 AM	#12
redskins121684 Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Romanowski is saying this because he's the poster boy for HGH. He loves that stuff. I think his wife had something like 6 perscriptions for HGH. He's part of that movement toward giving all players access to the hormone. I don't disagree with his reasoning HGH could probably save a lot of players a world of hurt when they are in their forties and fifties but it won't happen. The NFL doesn't want to tackle this thing because they realize HGH is a necessity. The NFL needs its best players to play and one way to achieve that is HGH. They can't publicly endorse a product demonized by organizations like the world anti doping agency. The way you handle it is you turn a blind eyes, you don't test, and you hope players use some kkind of discretion. Rodney Harrison messed up that last part. Santana probably won't be suspended any time soon, the NFL wants to let this thing play out, when have they ever done that under the watchful eye of Goodell, he suspended a player based on sex assault allegations where no charges arose (I am not defending Rapistburger I hate him I only make the point to emphasize Goodell could be described as trigger happy)? This drug is commonplace, moreover it's needed. I don't condone steroid use by a player but HGH isn't steroids and Moss was trying to heal himself. You can make the argument that HGH is performance enhancing but when a player uses the drug to get back to their original performance standard what can you say? You could make the same argument about IVs at halftime. A player gets dehydrated and they take an IV to get rehydrated FASTER, I know IVs are available to every player but at the end of the day most if not all NFL players can afford HGH, even guys making the minimum and they have access, there are always black market guys available to the players to get this stuff. This is a very dicey spot it presents to the NFL players who sought medical treatment and were treated with HGH. Moreover if you say HGH is cheating by a player because it utilizes measures not available to all players to achieve original performance ability then you enter a slippery slope. What of microfracture surgery for players, a procedure that most college programs will not reccomend because it's expensive, Tommy John surgery, knee reconstruction, or joint replacement. Sally Jenkins wrote a great article for the post yesterday and she made a very serious point. We, as fans, expect more all the time. We expect the threshold for performance to increase all the time. That's unrealistic. The warrior mentality that these guys have, ultimately, leads to their demise. I will not fault a guy for trying to heal his body because he got the snot knocked out of him entertaining me on Sundays, I can't do that, and what's more I don't think the league will do that. HGH isn't steroids it's a whole different animal it does different things to the body. I think if we want to forecast the league standing on Moss the greatest likelihood is that he will not be suspended at all. The evidence is cirsumstantial and clouded by the defendant. We should realize that in the Harrison case he made an admission in open court, Moss likely will not have to do that, he may go in front of a grand jusry but language is key. He can say things without actually saying things and hopefully that is what he does.

05-21-2010, 12:48 AM	#13
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Anyone else notice the "Doctor Prescribed HGH" and "GenF20 HGH Releaser" Google ads below Busters post at the top of the page? It seems to me that like most things it can be abused, but it also can be used in a very beneficial manner. Maybe the NFL should revisit their stance on HGH and how it is used to treat injuries. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

05-21-2010, 12:03 PM	#15
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player I am pretty sure the Redskins FO knew this was coming. That why they brought in so many reievers. I dont buy Jason Ried's story that this may change their mind about TO. If the sign TO it would not be because they just found this out.

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