D. Hall is our lone Pro Bowl selection

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

lol...like McNabb?

Big difference between Hall and Haynesworth...Hall gives 100%, Haynesworth 40-45%

I can't believe in the fairy tale that Hall gives 100% all the time on the field. If that's true, he's simply not a skilled professional athlete.

I don't ask any of my team's players to give 100% on every play, because it's not realistic. I would ask them to put in enough effort to produce results representative of their skills at the highest level of pro football competition, the NFL. Haynesworth, I think, satisfies this requirement when he's on the field. So I wouldn't consider him an underachiever while playing.

Practice, perhaps. I don't know. But McNabb also took a lot of criticism for his practice effort. Just saying.

[44ever]

Unfortunately the video is no longer available. But when I studied it, on 3 occasions, I seen D. Hall breaking on the ball from at least 5 yards out. They where not thrown at him. On one he jammed the receiver and continued the receivers route knowing it was a timing pass. On another he broke from way behind an stole the ball in the air right out of the hands of the receiver. Thats not luck, thats just awesome awareness.

[SirClintonPortis]

Warrick Holdman may better a better choice than Fatus Lumpus Albertus Feignworth III for that counterexample by Tripp.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Warrick Holdman may better a better choice than Fatus Lumpus Albertus Feignworth III for that counterexample by Tripp.

Holdman would have been fine too, but the point I wanted to make was more related to the moralization of a player's actions.

Haynesworth may receive more just criticism than Hall, but that doesn't mean that all criticism of Hall's play is unjust.

[GTripp0012]

From a Redskins fan perspective, I think one of the weirdest things about Hall going to the pro bowl is that Rogers and Buchanon can't get that spot, even though they were our two best corners in YPT. Truth is, if Hall doesn't go, Rogers and Buchanon still aren't getting any consideration, because the narrative on our defense is that it handed out passing yards like candy.

The narrative is correct, but Rogers and Buchanon actually kept the problem from being a lot worse than it was. Moore, Doughty, Landry, and Hall gave up way too many yards to a man, and contributed equally to our yardage problem. Obviously, Landry and Hall both made a number of winning plays, and Moore did not.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

From a Redskins fan perspective, I think one of the weirdest things about Hall going to the pro bowl is that Rogers and Buchanon can't get that spot, even though they were our two best corners in YPT. Truth is, if Hall doesn't go, Rogers and Buchanon still aren't getting any consideration, because the narrative on our defense is that it handed out passing yards like candy.

The narrative is correct, but Rogers and Buchanon actually kept the problem from being a lot worse than it was. Moore, Doughty, Landry, and Hall gave up way too many yards to a man, and contributed equally to our yardage problem. Obviously, Landry and Hall both made a number of winning plays, and Moore did not.

If CBs are balloted in based solely on INTs, then it's not so weird Rogers and Buchanon were not elected to the Pro Bowl, especially Rogers.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

If CBs are balloted in based solely on INTs, then it's not so weird Rogers and Buchanon were not elected to the Pro Bowl, especially Rogers.

Yeah I would assume a CB ballot to the pro bowl would more likely be based on playmaking turnovers than yards allowed in a game. Flashy usually gets you to Hawaii. Look at London...

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Yeah I would assume a CB ballot to the pro bowl would more likely be based on playmaking turnovers than yards allowed in a game. Flashy usually gets you to Hawaii. Look at London...

A dynamic on field personality is def part of it.