Around the NFL Week 13

JoeRedskin · 12-02-2011, 09:57 AM

I admit, and if you haven't guessed, I love, love, love watching the Eagles fail.

I hate the smugness of Dallas fans and don't like the Cowboys - but I loathe Eagles fans with a passion. I admit it is both unchristian and not a particularly good example for my kids, but I enjoy when these dumbass, thug fans - who justify their unsportsmanlike behaviour as "passion" - are bitterly disappointed. I wish plague and pestilence on them from now until the end of time.

Have been reading the Philly papers a little this morning and just enjoying the bile being spewed.

JoeRedskin · 12-02-2011, 09:58 AM

By the way, in answer to my own question earlier, I would not want Reid. I think he could do well in San Diego, but not here. I just don't see him ever being as good at building a team as he was back in his first 6 years with the Eagles. As one eagles pundit (Phil Sheridan), after recovering from the 2005 losing year, the Eagles under Reid have never been as good as they were in the first half of the decade and have been slipping each year - in no small part to Reid's coaching and personnel errors.

He's a solid coach and will be good somewhere (probably), but I think he would be served well with some time away and, as Tripp said, severing ties completely with the current coaching staff. I just see him as staid and making the same mistakes time and time again, year in, year out (time management, inability to commit to the run). Also, I think that, once J. Johnson left (died), Andy has never really been the same as a head coach - it's as if, b/c Johnson was so damn good, Reid forgot what makes a good defense, how to coach defense or even how to pick a good D coordinator.

He had his run, and, although I have said it before, I think the window has closed on this Eagles team. If AR sticks around next year, it will be deeply ugly for the team (Yeah!!!).

Ruhskins · 12-02-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

By the way, in answer to my own question earlier, I would not want Reid. I think he could do well in San Diego, but not here. I just don't see him ever being as good at building a team as he was back in his first 6 years with the Eagles. As one eagles pundit (Phil Sheridan), after recovering from the 2005 losing year, the Eagles under Reid have never been as good as they were in the first half of the decade and have been slipping each year - in no small part to Reid's coaching and personnel errors.

He's a solid coach and will be good somewhere (probably), but I think he would be served well with some time away and, as Tripp said, severing ties completely with the current coaching staff. I just see him as staid and making the same mistakes time and time again, year in, year out (time management, inability to commit to the run). Also, I think that, once J. Johnson left (died), Andy has never really been the same as a head coach - it's as if, b/c Johnson was so damn good, Reid forgot what makes a good defense, how to coach defense or even how to pick a good D coordinator.

He had his run, and, although I have said it before, I think the window has closed on this Eagles team. If AR sticks around next year, it will be deeply ugly for the team (Yeah!!!).

I must admit that after seeing Reid perform two masterpiece offseason moves this past two years (robbing us and the Cardinals blind in the McNabb and Kolb trades) I was amazed at the Vinnyesque moves made by Reid. I would be curious what type of control he is given in a new team.

SBXVII · 12-02-2011, 10:38 AM

If Andy Reid was smart he'd make some changes now which might keep his job. Like firing the OL coach and moving his DC back to OL. Then actually hire a DC who is available (if there are any) and let him do his job as best he can. I think most of us to include the top management with the Eagles know that the injuries they have and poor play is not all on Reid, but the failed experiement of switching the OL coach to DC might cost him his job cause if he can't see that it's not working then the top brass has to wonder if keeping him around is a good idea. Unless Reid is trying to get himself fired so the top brass will still have to pay him and he can go elsewhere or take a break on the Eagles dime.

If I was the owner I'd be talking with Gruden or Fischer. Imagine the in division rivalery between MS and Fischer or MS and Gruden. It would make the NFCE the top division to watch week in and week out with a ton of tv sponsers.

MTK · 12-02-2011, 10:56 AM

He can be pissed all he wants, pouting gets you nowhere and is always the wrong way to go about getting a new deal.

I wouldn't be surprised if they let him sign elsewhere. In fact they might be smart to do that.

The Goat · 12-02-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

He can be pissed all he wants, pouting gets you nowhere and is always the wrong way to go about getting a new deal.

I wouldn't be surprised if they let him sign elsewhere. In fact they might be smart to do that.

Don't think we would give him a look anyway but I certainly hope not!!

MTK · 12-02-2011, 12:54 PM

Did VY want to take a chance on us though?

Ruhskins · 12-02-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Did VY want to take a chance on us though?

I don't see why not, given that he could have competed for the starter job. It sounds like maybe we didn't want to take a chance? Understandably given VY's character problems.

SBXVII · 12-02-2011, 01:58 PM

Oh and since there is no WK 13 Skins/Jets prediction thread I'll say it here...

Skins 24
Jets 17

skinsfaninok · 12-02-2011, 03:00 PM

Bears give Bennett Extension 4 yr 18 M

Chico23231 · 12-02-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bears give Bennett Extension 4 yr 18 M

wow and yet Forte remains unsigned? 18 mil for Bennett....good for him

Ruhskins · 12-02-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

wow and yet Forte remains unsigned? 18 mil for Bennett....good for him

Yeah, this is puzzling.

JoeRedskin · 12-02-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yeah, this is puzzling.

Down right mystifying unless they plan to franchise him.

SirClintonPortis · 12-02-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yeah, this is puzzling.

It's usually in their best interest to wait it out so they avoid the winner's curse. Circumstances beyond their control could happen in the remaining weeks of the season that could affect negotiations, such as freak injuries and whatever else could happen.

firstdown · 12-02-2011, 03:27 PM

What is everyone arguing about. This is just great and instead of arguing about what one should or should not do just watch and have a good laugh. This whole thing is too good.LMFAO

12-02-2011, 09:57 AM	#1
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 I admit, and if you haven't guessed, I love, love, love watching the Eagles fail. I hate the smugness of Dallas fans and don't like the Cowboys - but I loathe Eagles fans with a passion. I admit it is both unchristian and not a particularly good example for my kids, but I enjoy when these dumbass, thug fans - who justify their unsportsmanlike behaviour as "passion" - are bitterly disappointed. I wish plague and pestilence on them from now until the end of time. Have been reading the Philly papers a little this morning and just enjoying the bile being spewed. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

12-02-2011, 09:58 AM	#2
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 By the way, in answer to my own question earlier, I would not want Reid. I think he could do well in San Diego, but not here. I just don't see him ever being as good at building a team as he was back in his first 6 years with the Eagles. As one eagles pundit (Phil Sheridan), after recovering from the 2005 losing year, the Eagles under Reid have never been as good as they were in the first half of the decade and have been slipping each year - in no small part to Reid's coaching and personnel errors. He's a solid coach and will be good somewhere (probably), but I think he would be served well with some time away and, as Tripp said, severing ties completely with the current coaching staff. I just see him as staid and making the same mistakes time and time again, year in, year out (time management, inability to commit to the run). Also, I think that, once J. Johnson left (died), Andy has never really been the same as a head coach - it's as if, b/c Johnson was so damn good, Reid forgot what makes a good defense, how to coach defense or even how to pick a good D coordinator. He had his run, and, although I have said it before, I think the window has closed on this Eagles team. If AR sticks around next year, it will be deeply ugly for the team (Yeah!!!). __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

12-02-2011, 10:38 AM	#4
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 If Andy Reid was smart he'd make some changes now which might keep his job. Like firing the OL coach and moving his DC back to OL. Then actually hire a DC who is available (if there are any) and let him do his job as best he can. I think most of us to include the top management with the Eagles know that the injuries they have and poor play is not all on Reid, but the failed experiement of switching the OL coach to DC might cost him his job cause if he can't see that it's not working then the top brass has to wonder if keeping him around is a good idea. Unless Reid is trying to get himself fired so the top brass will still have to pay him and he can go elsewhere or take a break on the Eagles dime. If I was the owner I'd be talking with Gruden or Fischer. Imagine the in division rivalery between MS and Fischer or MS and Gruden. It would make the NFCE the top division to watch week in and week out with a ton of tv sponsers.

12-02-2011, 10:56 AM	#5
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 He can be pissed all he wants, pouting gets you nowhere and is always the wrong way to go about getting a new deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him sign elsewhere. In fact they might be smart to do that. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-02-2011, 12:54 PM	#7
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 Did VY want to take a chance on us though? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-02-2011, 01:58 PM	#9
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 Oh and since there is no WK 13 Skins/Jets prediction thread I'll say it here... Skins 24 Jets 17

12-02-2011, 03:00 PM	#10
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 Bears give Bennett Extension 4 yr 18 M __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-02-2011, 03:27 PM	#15
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Around the NFL Week 13 What is everyone arguing about. This is just great and instead of arguing about what one should or should not do just watch and have a good laugh. This whole thing is too good.LMFAO Last edited by firstdown; 12-02-2011 at 03:28 PM.

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