New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

[tryfuhl]

I wont condone dirty hits but even at high school level ball... we paid very close attention to injury reports.. and I can't think of a single time when we weren't congratulated for knocking someone out of a game... only dirty hits matter to me.. we didn't/don't care whose heads got knocked off by our players unless it was illegal.. if it is a payer only pool.. it is a lot different than something coach run

[DynamiteRave]

Remember the Jets strength and conditioning coach that tripped the dolphins player? He instructed players to line up on the sidelines to impede other opposing players. Slapped with a $100,000 fine and basically shamed into resigning.

I feel like GW's situation is way worse than that. How does he even keep a job at this point?

[44Deezel]

ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk)
3/4/12 7:07 AM
Report: Bills had bounty system under Gregg Williams wp.me/p14QSB-1qTg


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[44Deezel]

USA TODAY Top News (@USATODAY)
3/4/12 6:02 AM
Report: Saints penalty by March 26 usat.ly/xkzFo9


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[MTK]

Skins aren't going to lose a pick, especially not a first rounder. There's no proof that the team knew about this, unlike the Saints.

[mooby]

We're not going to lose any draft picks. I expect a fine, somewhere in the 100k-500k range, and that'll be it. How are they going to punish the current modern day Redskins for something that happened 5 years ago? That's why there's a statute of limitations. A fine serves its purpose, we still get punished, but the real punishment will go to the Saints and probably Gregg Williams.

There's a difference between what we did and what they did. Obviously the program was similar, but the difference is our head coach had no knowledge (and there's no evidence that proves that he did know about it) and the fact that Payton and the FO in Naw'leans was warned and still continued it. That and the fact that they are still in Naw'leans is the reason there will be fines, suspensions, and loss of draft picks. I expect Gregg Williams to be suspende and/or banned from the league, I don't believe he's the only defensive coach in the league who was doing this but he's the sacrificial lamb in this case. And so be it.

There's a whole paper trail incriminating guys like Payton and Loomis in NO. Even GW has come out and admitted it. The Bills will likely get fined as well, but again the Bills and Redskins fall into the same category here. The Saints will be the ones that get hit hard. I'm not worried about this affecting our draft at all, tbh.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

We're not going to lose any draft picks. I expect a fine, somewhere in the 100k-500k range, and that'll be it. How are they going to punish the current modern day Redskins for something that happened 5 years ago? That's why there's a statute of limitations. A fine serves its purpose, we still get punished, but the real punishment will go to the Saints and probably Gregg Williams.

There's a difference between what we did and what they did. Obviously the program was similar, but the difference is our head coach had no knowledge (and there's no evidence that proves that he did know about it) and the fact that Payton and the FO in Naw'leans was warned and still continued it. That and the fact that they are still in Naw'leans is the reason there will be fines, suspensions, and loss of draft picks. I expect Gregg Williams to be suspende and/or banned from the league, I don't believe he's the only defensive coach in the league who was doing this but he's the sacrificial lamb in this case. And so be it.

There's a whole paper trail incriminating guys like Payton and Loomis in NO. Even GW has come out and admitted it. The Bills will likely get fined as well, but again the Bills and Redskins fall into the same category here. The Saints will be the ones that get hit hard. I'm not worried about this affecting our draft at all, tbh.

You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.

I think a 1 year ban is in order. With everything the NFL preaches these days about player safety, anything less than dropping the hammer on GW/Saints would be so hypocritical.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think a 1 year ban is in order. With everything the NFL preaches these days about player safety, anything less than dropping the hammer on GW/Saints would be so hypocritical.

Agreed, 1 year at the least. I think the NFL will look to make an example of him. Doesn't help that he straight up lied to the league either.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think a 1 year ban is in order. With everything the NFL preaches these days about player safety, anything less than dropping the hammer on GW/Saints would be so hypocritical.

Not to mention it would set the precedent for future cases and potential lawsuits if a player received a career ending or worse injury from one of these bounty actions.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Not to mention it would set the precedent for future cases and potential lawsuits if a player received a career ending or worse injury from one of these bounty actions.

i think this will be the biggest factor in determining his punishment. with all the current law suits against the nfl and the many to come, i feel they have to make a stand and show they don't condone this in any way what so ever.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.

I doubt you will see him in the NFL again.
He'll get fired and disappear.
Imagine the boos the Saints will get if hes on the sidelines on opening day.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I doubt you will see him in the NFL again.
He'll get fired and disappear.
Imagine the boos the Saints will get if hes on the sidelines on opening day.

He's the Defensive cordinater for the Rams( for now)

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He's the Defensive cordinater for the Rams( for now)

errrr...yea...I knew that.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.

He's the sacrificial lamb. Was he the only one doing it? Highly doubtful. Will he be made an example of because he continued after he was told to stop? Yes. I think Scud is right, a minimum 1 year ban sounds about right. They are going to make an example out of him as a warning to any other coaches doing it. It doesn't matter whether you think it's right or wrong, what matters is he intentionally kept breaking a rule thinking there would be no consequences.