Redskins Vs Chargers Postgame

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

D. Hall is earning himself a contract. He's been our best player on defense. He's having an outstanding year.

And....deserving it

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

D. Hall is earning himself a contract. He's been our best player on defense. He's having an outstanding year.

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

yeah when was the last time we said Hall was beat?

He's been pretty damned good since the bye week of last year. I think we should just give him one year deals because he seems to play better this way. I want to say he's bargain at his current contract, but he has a lot of ground to make up for when he was complete crap yet getting top position salary.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

He's been pretty damned good since the bye week of last year. I think we should just give him one year deals because he seems to play better this way. I want to say he's bargain at his current contract, but he has a lot of ground to make up for when he was complete crap yet getting top position salary.

We won't be the only team involved with his new contract, so we'd probably need to go more than one year to re-sign him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

He's been pretty damned good since the bye week of last year. I think we should just give him one year deals because he seems to play better this way. I want to say he's bargain at his current contract, but he has a lot of ground to make up for when he was complete crap yet getting top position salary.

Franchise tender ballpark is about $10 million, right?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Franchise tender ballpark is about $10 million, right?

why would you franchise him? Hall wants to be here, we have leverage.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

why would you franchise him? Hall wants to be here, we have leverage.

I wouldn't necessarily franchise him, but he's playing his way into it.

[skinsfaninok]

yeah when was the last time we said Hall was beat?

[Bucket]

Can we never be satisfied with players who perform? Pierre is playing great football right now, and if we can get another Pierre on the other side of the field we would be in really great shape.

108 catches is productive, and we are labeled a running offense. We don't win that game Sunday if it wasn't for Pierre.

Also, Alfred has 686 yards this season 25 yards behind Peterson with 20 less carries. We are a running team so to have a WR produce like Pierre is not unreasonable for his contract. I'm going out on a limb and saying Morris will be leading the NFL in rushing after this week.

My biggest issue right now is Morgans contract. It seems like they put him back on kickoffs and punts to justify why he's making so much because Hankerson has taken his spot on the depth chart.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Can we never be satisfied with players who perform? Pierre is playing great football right now, and if we can get another Pierre on the other side of the field we would be in really great shape.

108 catches is productive, and we are labeled a running offense. We don't win that game yesterday if it wasn't for Pierre.

Also, Alfred has 686 yards this season 25 yards behind Peterson with 20 less carries. We are a running team so to have a WR produce like Pierre is not unreasonable for his contract. I'm going out on a limb and saying Morris will be leading the NFL in rushing after this week.

My biggest issue right now is Morgans contract. It seems like they put him back on kickoffs and punts to justify why he's making so much because Hankerson has taken his spot on the depth chart.

Moss, Morgan and Robinson are done, they are gone after this season. But lets crush are #1 guy who brings it every week. It makes no sense. Hank is our possision guy, but we gotta add 3 receivers this offseason. Major need imo.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Moss, Morgan and Robinson are done, they are gone after this season. But lets crush are #1 guy who brings it every week. It makes no sense. Hank is our possision guy, but we gotta add 3 receivers this offseason. Major need imo.

I really don't think Hank is a possession WR. I think he's better off as a #3 or #4. He produces but has no killer instinct. He never attacks the ball and always catches with his body. Has a larger catch radius than Jordan Reed, but plays smaller. We really need a guy like Alshon Jeffrey with a big body and uses it well.

Of course, a lot of teams just make the TE their possession WR and I think Jordan Reed could fill that role if we wanted to add more speed at the WR position.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I really don't think Hank is a possession WR. I think he's better off as a #3 or #4. He produces but has no killer instinct. He never attacks the ball and always catches with his body. Has a larger catch radius than Jordan Reed, but plays smaller. We really need a guy like Alshon Jeffrey with a big body and uses it well.

Of course, a lot of teams just make the TE their possession WR and I think Jordan Reed could fill that role if we wanted to add more speed at the WR position.

yeah agree Id like to see more speed on the other side of Garcon and in the slot as well. We really need a slot guy.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Moss, Morgan and Robinson are done, they are gone after this season. But lets crush are #1 guy who brings it every week. It makes no sense. Hank is our possision guy, but we gotta add 3 receivers this offseason. Major need imo.

Garcon is now a guy who brings it every week? Maybe he just showed up at the wrong place last week.

He was the most dependable receiving target in this game (Saved RG3's bacon twice), and I think that's why he deserves a game ball for that performance, but I think he needs to play like this more often (obviously not 7/172, but 5/80 pretty much every week). When you are the highest paid player on the team, I don't think that's too much to ask.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Garcon is now a guy who brings it every week? Maybe he just showed up at the wrong place last week.

He was the most dependable receiving target in this game (Saved RG3's bacon twice), and I think that's why he deserves a game ball for that performance, but I think he needs to play like this more often (obviously not 7/172, but 5/80 pretty much every week). When you are the highest paid player on the team, I don't think that's too much to ask.

When the QB is struggling, that makes it pretty difficult. And RG3 has struggled in the passing game more often than not this year. When RG3 has been on, so has Pierre for the most part. Plus he does bring it in the run game as well. Better than most WR's in that aspect. Our run game would not be as good without WR's blocking, and he is willing to do that.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

When the QB is struggling, that makes it pretty difficult. And RG3 has struggled in the passing game more often than not this year. When RG3 has been on, so has Pierre for the most part. Plus he does bring it in the run game as well. Better than most WR's in that aspect. Our run game would not be as good without WR's blocking, and he is willing to do that.

Garcon is an excellent blocker and really helps a lot in our run schemes.

But you don't think Garcon shoulders any blame whatsoever for RG3's struggles? I don't agree with that.

Garcon is clearly one of the two best receivers on this team and needs to be on the field 80% or more of offensive snaps. But I also think that to some degree, the percentage of offense that relies on Garcon is something that needs to be addressed in the offseason.

I think the reality of the situation is that there are a numbers of factors holding back the passing offense: pass protection, Griffin's development, and inconsistent receiver play.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Garcon is now a guy who brings it every week? Maybe he just showed up at the wrong place last week.

He was the most dependable receiving target in this game (Saved RG3's bacon twice), and I think that's why he deserves a game ball for that performance, but I think he needs to play like this more often (obviously not 7/172, but 5/80 pretty much every week). When you are the highest paid player on the team, I don't think that's too much to ask.

I think Garcon brings it every week, but the passing game in general isnt. Kyle, RG3, lack of other receivers and the biggest issue, Oline, have had problems. I think Garcon is that reciever who could be 100 yards receiving per game.

And no way would I franchise Hall, too likely to fall back into old habits. I want him back, but not at that price tag. Dont know if i give crazy money to Talib though and I think that's where we are heading...