The Haskins Threat

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

I’m with you .. it’s not the interceptions or the sacks .. heck the best do that ! After 6 months in playbook he still cant grasp the basic playbook enough for the coaches to feel good about it... I believe that Bruce and dan have100% told coaches that Haskins has to play hence colt is 3rd string .i know we suck but the team has not quit if Haskins plays rest of year and is bad and the team does say screw this then we will have a total melt down where guys will say its not Haskins the team has quit! I believe the situation will determine when Haskins plays .. you can’t name him starter if Case can go .. unless Bruce and dan are calling that ..

We are 1-7 with Case and Colt starting. Almost 0-8. It would be one thing if we were a 3 or 4 win team and even slightly in contention for the division. I just do not understand what everyones hope for Case is? Again he gives us no chance to win. We have seen it now for half a season. So lets see what Haskins has. The only way to gain experience WHICH IS WHAT HE LACKS is by playing.
Or have it your way, let Case lead us to a 2 win season...maybe, and we can continue this thread for another year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

We are 1-7 with Case and Colt starting. Almost 0-8. It would be one thing if we were a 3 or 4 win team and even slightly in contention for the division. I just do not understand what everyones hope for Case is? Again he gives us no chance to win. We have seen it now for half a season. So lets see what Haskins has. The only way to gain experience WHICH IS WHAT HE LACKS is by playing.
Or have it your way, let Case lead us to a 2 win season...maybe, and we can continue this thread for another year.

Those two guys can call the plays. It was reported that when Haskins got in there he called the play the wrong way, Quinn went to the wrong area and then it resulted in a penalty. That's the stuff we're talking about here. Just the basic crap.

Even when we had both RG and Cousins as rookies we never heard anything about them not being able to call the plays the correct way. IDK, I want him in there as bad as everyone else but if he can't do the very basics then he simply can't play.

Also I have not heard one single player say he's ready. They all say the political correct thing. That's even more telling than what the coaches are saying. Players know..

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Those two guys can call the plays. It was reported that when Haskins got in there he called the play the wrong way, Quinn went to the wrong area and then it resulted in a penalty. That's the stuff we're talking about here. Just the basic crap.



Even when we had both RG and Cousins as rookies we never heard anything about them not being able to call the plays the correct way. IDK, I want him in there as bad as everyone else but if he can't do the very basics then he simply can't play.



Also I have not heard one single player say he's ready. They all say the political correct thing. That's even more telling than what the coaches are saying. Players know..

Well let him practice with the first team, and play - put him on the fast track. If Keenum is going to be the starter next year Im done. Lol.

[Burgold]

Is it just me,or does the kid seem disinterested on the sideline,one of the reasons I said not to play him is he just doesn't seem to be paying attention..somebody needs to take Dwayne aside and have a long talk with him about just what it means to be an NFL quarterback because he may think that all he had to do was get drafted and the job was his,starting with him wanting No.7 which belongs to Joe which says that he had no sense of team history and he's spoiled,yes the kid has talent but he needs an attitude adjustment between now and training camp!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Burgold

Is it just me,or does the kid seem disinterested on the sideline,one of the reasons I said not to play him is he just doesn't seem to be paying attention..somebody needs to take Dwayne aside and have a long talk with him about just what it means to be an NFL quarterback because he may think that all he had to do was get drafted and the job was his,starting with him wanting No.7 which belongs to Joe which says that he had no sense of team history and he's spoiled,yes the kid has talent but he needs an attitude adjustment between now and training camp!

No, its not just you. In fact, its the number on reason I have no problem calling him a bust.

[SunnySide]

I wasnt on the Haskins bandwagon but I think the mob turned on him way to quick.

Physical abilities are there. He throws a nice ball. His arm is plus. We knew he was a project coming in, perhaps not this much of a project. Unfortunately, he was drafted by a team that top to bottom doesnt know to function. Hes learning dysfunction.

Haskins should get at least 8 or so starts, assuming he stays healthy. And he needs some starts with a week of practice before we can start micro analyzing him.

Haskins has the physical abilities. I am no where close to writing him off. Wish his emergency starts looked better but its too soon.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I think its important to note the trends in reports we've heard as it relates to Haskins readiness to start since the time drafted him.

First, we were told that, while it might take him a while to develop, he would still be in the mix to have a chance to compete to be the week 1 starter in camp.

During camp, based on what was observed and what the coaches were saying, the talk shifted more towards him sitting for a few weeks, but most likely being ready to start at some point early on in the season.

As the season started, the reports were more like Haskins might sit all year, learn, but be ready to start in 2020.

Following Jays firing, Callahan made comments indicating that Haskins might not even start in 2020, that he could take some time to develop and this could be a situation similar to Aaron Rogers, who sat several years before starting. This was further supported by reporting that the skins may go back to Alex Smith in 2020 if he's healthy.

Amidst all of this, there were reports that Haskins was not taking things very seriously. Mike Lombardi said he talked to several coaches who said Haskins was not paying attention in meetings, not putting in the time and work, acting entitled, and seemed to think the job should just be handed to him. We've seen with our own eyes Haskins on the sidelines seeming disinterested. After each offensive series, he's not sitting with Case and reviewing the plays - even when he is the #2 QB and needs to be ready to play. I cant recall having EVER seen the backup QB for any team be so.... negligent.

We all thought Haskins was a reach at the draft due to his lack of experience. But the most troubling concerns relate to his mindset and attitude. There is nothing you can do with a player who isn't willing to recognize his role on a team or put forth the effort to improve. Haskins has shown me all he needs to show me to know he isn't the answer. We need a QB who is a LEADER, not a POUTER.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think its important to note the trends in reports we've heard as it relates to Haskins readiness to start since the time drafted him.

First, we were told that, while it might take him a while to develop, he would still be in the mix to have a chance to compete to be the week 1 starter in camp.

During camp, based on what was observed and what the coaches were saying, the talk shifted more towards him sitting for a few weeks, but most likely being ready to start at some point early on in the season.

As the season started, the reports were more like Haskins might sit all year, learn, but be ready to start in 2020.

Following Jays firing, Callahan made comments indicating that Haskins might not even start in 2020, that he could take some time to develop and this could be a situation similar to Aaron Rogers, who sat several years before starting. This was further supported by reporting that the skins may go back to Alex Smith in 2020 if he's healthy.

Amidst all of this, there were reports that Haskins was not taking things very seriously. Mike Lombardi said he talked to several coaches who said Haskins was not paying attention in meetings, not putting in the time and work, acting entitled, and seemed to think the job should just be handed to him. We've seen with our own eyes Haskins on the sidelines seeming disinterested. After each offensive series, he's not sitting with Case and reviewing the plays - even when he is the #2 QB and needs to be ready to play. I cant recall having EVER seen the backup QB for any team be so.... negligent.

We all thought Haskins was a reach at the draft due to his lack of experience. But the most troubling concerns relate to his mindset and attitude. There is nothing you can do with a player who isn't willing to recognize his role on a team or put forth the effort to improve. Haskins has shown me all he needs to show me to know he isn't the answer. We need a QB who is a LEADER, not a POUTER.

Lombardi can fuck off. I put zero stock in anything he says about the Skins.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

Lombardi can fuck off. I put zero stock in anything he says about the Skins.

He only talked to the coaches ( most likely Gruden) that are on staff. What the hell do they know?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think its important to note the trends in reports we've heard as it relates to Haskins readiness to start since the time drafted him.

First, we were told that, while it might take him a while to develop, he would still be in the mix to have a chance to compete to be the week 1 starter in camp.

During camp, based on what was observed and what the coaches were saying, the talk shifted more towards him sitting for a few weeks, but most likely being ready to start at some point early on in the season.

As the season started, the reports were more like Haskins might sit all year, learn, but be ready to start in 2020.

Following Jays firing, Callahan made comments indicating that Haskins might not even start in 2020, that he could take some time to develop and this could be a situation similar to Aaron Rogers, who sat several years before starting. This was further supported by reporting that the skins may go back to Alex Smith in 2020 if he's healthy.

Amidst all of this, there were reports that Haskins was not taking things very seriously. Mike Lombardi said he talked to several coaches who said Haskins was not paying attention in meetings, not putting in the time and work, acting entitled, and seemed to think the job should just be handed to him. We've seen with our own eyes Haskins on the sidelines seeming disinterested. After each offensive series, he's not sitting with Case and reviewing the plays - even when he is the #2 QB and needs to be ready to play. I cant recall having EVER seen the backup QB for any team be so.... negligent.

We all thought Haskins was a reach at the draft due to his lack of experience. But the most troubling concerns relate to his mindset and attitude. There is nothing you can do with a player who isn't willing to recognize his role on a team or put forth the effort to improve. Haskins has shown me all he needs to show me to know he isn't the answer. We need a QB who is a LEADER, not a POUTER.

This is that dumb shit I hate commenting on.

Nobody in their right mind was talking about Alex Smith being a viable option for 2020. After 17 surgeries the obvious move should be him retiring, and tbh he can start all he wants elsewhere but it damn sure shouldn't be here, after we wasted 40 mil in cap space on him.

And I like Lombardi on some things, I thought his criticism on the FO issues was on point but I haven't heard anybody else talking about Haskins attitude or mindset as being a problem. Until I hear it everywhere it's a non-starter for me.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

This is that dumb shit I hate commenting on.

Nobody in their right mind was talking about Alex Smith being a viable option for 2020. After 17 surgeries the obvious move should be him retiring, and tbh he can start all he wants elsewhere but it damn sure shouldn't be here, after we wasted 40 mil in cap space on him.

And I like Lombardi on some things, I thought his criticism on the FO issues was on point but I haven't heard anybody else talking about Haskins attitude or mindset as being a problem. Until I hear it everywhere it's a non-starter for me.

I believe it may have been Jay who said earlier in the year that of course the redskins and many other NFL teams would consider Alex Smith in 2020 if he was cleared to play and ready to go....

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I believe it may have been Jay who said earlier in the year that of course the redskins and many other NFL teams would consider Alex Smith in 2020 if he was cleared to play and ready to go....

How long have you been a fan? Long enough to learn coach speak right?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I believe it may have been Jay who said earlier in the year that of course the redskins and many other NFL teams would consider Alex Smith in 2020 if he was cleared to play and ready to go....

Originally Posted by mooby

How long have you been a fan? Long enough to learn coach speak right?

If Jay Gruden isn't delusionaly optimistic about players coming back from injury, nobody is. I remember last year listening to him on the radio go over the injuries, he would refer to guys as day to day or probable for Sunday and the guys would be out a month more or worse.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mooby

This is that dumb shit I hate commenting on.

Nobody in their right mind was talking about Alex Smith being a viable option for 2020. After 17 surgeries the obvious move should be him retiring, and tbh he can start all he wants elsewhere but it damn sure shouldn't be here, after we wasted 40 mil in cap space on him.

And I like Lombardi on some things, I thought his criticism on the FO issues was on point but I haven't heard anybody else talking about Haskins attitude or mindset as being a problem. Until I hear it everywhere it's a non-starter for me.

That $40 million is exactly why I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get Smith back playing.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by irish

That $40 million is exactly why I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get Smith back playing.

Smith would be crazy to try to risk his future health, simply for pride. He gets paid either way, so why risk becoming a cripple?


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