WFT's Off-Season Thread

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Yeah Tomlin won't put up with his immature BS either...he better get it together to stay with them...he's fortunate.

That's what I'm saying. I think out of all the candidates to rehab him Tomlin is probably one of the better choices. If he fails Tomlin badly he might not get another look. But if he keeps his head down and just puts in work no telling how good he could be. Obviously that's an attractive destination too, even though we haven't heard anything yet I think Tomlin is gonna force Ben to retire or leave even if he doesn't want to.

[MTK]

Sounds like it's a 1 year futures deal, so no risk for the Steelers.

He's already got a photoshopped pic of himself on Twitter in a Steelers uniform lol

He loves being a football player but I don't think he knows what it means to love playing football yet

[mooby]

Obv Haskins is still young and immature and probably the guy Ron was referring to when he said he wants guys who love the game.

But I wouldn't bet against him. He's got the talent, maybe he just needed to hit rock bottom before he realizes he needs to rediscover the work ethic that got him to the league in the first place.

I reserve the right to change my opinion when the next video of him making it rain after taking an L as the Steelers starting qb comes out .

[Monkeydad]

Gets fired from his job for partying with nasty strippers in a pandemic...posts Bible verses.

I am not the Judge and if he actually did turn his life around and found God that quickly, that's awesome, but it's just an odd post considering circumstances. He has a track record of immaturity.

Anyways, good luck, kid...hope you turn everything around on and of the field.

I don't think he can beat out Josh Dobbs or even Duck Hodges for third-string QB if he comes back to town.

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Gets fired from his job for partying with nasty strippers in a pandemic...posts Bible verses.

I am not the Judge and if he actually did turn his life around and found God that quickly, that's awesome, but it's just an odd post considering circumstances. He has a track record of immaturity.

Anyways, good luck, kid...hope you turn everything around on and of the field.

I don't think he can beat out Josh Dobbs or even Duck Hodges for third-string QB if he comes back to town.

Why exactly is it awesome for a grown man to have ab imaginary friend?

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Gets fired from his job for partying with nasty strippers in a pandemic...posts Bible verses.

I am not the Judge and if he actually did turn his life around and found God that quickly, that's awesome, but it's just an odd post considering circumstances. He has a track record of immaturity.

Anyways, good luck, kid...hope you turn everything around on and of the field.

I don't think he can beat out Josh Dobbs or even Duck Hodges for third-string QB if he comes back to town.

The Steelers have the long view in mind. They have had Big Ben for 15 years plus and won 2 SBs with him. They understand the value of long-term stability at QB and are looking for the next 10 year+ starter at QB. No one would dispute that Haskins has 1st round talent, he has a live arm and is accurate when he doesn't get lazy with mechanics, but he is a mess mentally in terms of both maturity and the basic intelligence to read Ds. You bring him in, and he has 2 years to get it together. The price is one roster slot, 3rd string QB, if he stops the ridiculousness immediately over short term, with the potential payoff being a long-term franchise QB without spending any draft picks. Can you imagine how Pittsburgh is sitting if Haskins can become even a quality back-up? Much less starter? If Haskins is the Pittsburgh franchise QB in 2023 for the next decade? It is a long shot, but a smart one, given how hard franchise QBs are to find. He takes the roster position of a 6th CB or LB that primarily plays ST.

The mentality is what is telling. The long-term perspective. The Skins were smart for cutting Haskins. It was the right choice. But we need the same long-term perspective when it comes to finding our franchise QB, and not knee-jerk trades.

Man Haskins was a tool. Gift wrapped a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and flushes it down the drain. What a moron. The laziness in game prep was the real killer, and the lack of character to face the media. He doesn't seem to love the game and probably attained success in college without putting in the kind of work a pro QB does in film, preparation, etc. Interesting to see if he is ever willing to put in that kind of work. If you don't love that process, love the game, 20+ hours a week in addition to practice can become quite a grind. The scouts almost certainly told THE DAN this before he picked Haskins anyway.

[AnonEmouse]

Funny how there's a ton of speculation about Brees retiring but almost nada on Big Ben walking off into the sunset. I'd say aside from struggling with half his body being broken, Brees had a better year than Roethlisberger...

[GridIron26]

If I'm Rivera, this would be my off season plans:

#1 step: resign our players with expiring contract - Heinicke, Allen, Scherff, Cam Sims (1-2 years) and Darby (2-3 years), Ryan Kerrigan (if he accepts being #3 - behind Young and Sweat), Dustin Hopkins, Reuben Foster, David Sharpe, Nick Sundberg.

- Heinicke and Allen: the goal is have them battle for the backup spot in the training camp
- Cam Sims: he improved toward ending of the season although I still want to see more from him, especially if he wants to be #3 WR.
- Darby: he played better and stayed healthy throughout the season, which exceeded my expectations although I think we could find a better CB but since we have multiple needs all over the team. We could do worse than Darby so I think 2-3 years contract is a good way to compromise on this area.
- Kerrigan: it's likely he will sign with a different team but I definitely would be happy to resign him if he isn't able to find a team that will allow him to start.
- Hopkins: he had a down year but even with the down year, he is still better than half of the kickers in the league. Resign him and find competitors for him.
- Foster: at this point, we do not know if Foster will be able to play well since he didn't play the last 2-3 years but we need LBs badly so we need to uncover any hidden gems available out there. Sign him to a 1-2 years contract.
- Sharpe: we need depth on Oline and we should look to the draft and FA to find competitors for Sharpe for the backup T spot.
- Sundberg: he always has been a reliable snapper for years for the team, do I need to say anything else?


#2 step: extend those players' contract that will expire next year - Jonathan Allen, Logan Thomas, JD McKissic and Tim Settle.
- Allen: no need for the explanation
- Thomas: he far exceeded my expectations. As some of you guys might remember, I mentioned in the offseason last year that I had a feeling Thomas will make some contributions to the team but I did not expect him to become one of the key offense players for the team. We might as well extend his contract instead of waiting until the contract expires as it will be more expensive to resign him if we wait.
- McKissic: I had no expectations from him, I thought he would be a poor version of Chris Thompson only to realize he is on the same level as Thompson, only he is a little better at running the ball.
- Settle: just like Allen, no need to explain.


#3 step: look for #1 QB, whether it's Watson or Stafford. If we missed out on both of those players, I would be tempted to roll with Heinicke or Allen as a starter. I don't see any QB in the free agency that I would love to sign if we weren't able to get Watson or Stafford. I would consider Ryan Fitzpatrick only if my offense coordinator wants him.


#4 step: try to sign those FA players:
- Wide Receivers: Chris Godwin or Allen Robinson. If we couldn't sign one of those 2 players, then I would consider Kenny Golladay or Curtis Samuel. The former players would be my #1 target.
- Tight Ends: Jonnu Smith. We need a second TE, while Smith is not the best blocker TE he has improved throughout time and Smith is pretty amazing at YAC which is perfect for our offense system.
- Oline: I don't see anyone that jumps out at me but I definitely want to have several Oline players to compete for #1 LT and LG. I will look to the draft for this area as well.
- LB: Just like my approach for Oline, I will want to sign a few LBs to compete for #1 spot. I would love to sign Lavonte David but I'm having hard time seeing him willing to leave a SB contender team.
- FS: we need a safety that can cover the field in the worst way, I would target Justin Simmons or Anthony Harris to play with Curl.

[SFREDSKIN]

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/1/23/...V5GtRdA3HWre6E

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/1/23/...V5GtRdA3HWre6E

This makes a lot of sense to me. Also another reason why I wouldn't give up more than a first and a third for Stafford. If they mortgage the future because we have a "window" to contend and Stafford ends up injured we're basically setting ourselves back for multiple years.

[Ruhskins]

One of the best news of the offseason. Coach Rivera is officially cancer-free:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ch-cancer-free

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

One of the best news of the offseason. Coach Rivera is officially cancer-free:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ch-cancer-free

Glad to hear it. Hopefully that's the last we hear of it, but I feel like recurring cancer is always a concern when you've had it at least once.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

One of the best news of the offseason. Coach Rivera is officially cancer-free:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ch-cancer-free

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

One of the best news of the offseason. Coach Rivera is officially cancer-free:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...ch-cancer-free

That's beyond awesome ! Such an inspirational story.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

That's beyond awesome ! Such an inspirational story.

Ron Rivera is just what this franchise needed. Literally the perfect man for the job we needed done.

He defeated cancer. Awesome under any circumstance. But he coached our team to the playoffs like as a side job. Yeah, our division was down, but fuck that, we made the damn playoffs and had a chance to defeat the GOAT.

Rivera is a stud for a lot of reasons. Beat cancer 99.99% important, and changed our teams culture, the other 00.01%.