can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I agree.

At this point, Campbell is not ready to make deciding plays that win games on a consistent basis. In close games, he also makes basic fundamental mistakes that contribute directly to a loss.

It's hard to have this kind of inconsistent play from the quarterback on any team. Good teams like the giants are going to make the redskins offense one dimensional. I would think it's more sophisticated then this, but stack against the run, and let campbell beat you. And at this point, campbell is not ready enough to beat a team like the giants.

And I know it's a team effort for football, but so much of the game is run through the qb, especially when the other team is intent on shutting the running game down.

On the bright side, the redskins are good enough to win the next 3 games though.

I would love, just once, to see Zorn put Campbell in the shotgun from the start, give us a 65-35 pass:run ratio and see what happens. I think we'd be very pleasantly surprised with the results. The way Zorn calls plays the QB has to be perfect in order to be productive. One pass attempt over 20 yards (there were longer catch and runs, but I'm speaking of the attempts) a 16:18 run pass ratio late in a game we're down 2 scores. Talk about giving the offense no chance? I know I've been in a bunch of threads saying this, but Zorn needs to prove to me he's an NFL level play caller/game adapter before I write of Campbell.

[RedskinPete]

Campbell what can you say....How long will this go on? Campbell's had four years to gt this right. As for Zorn he has been here one season and a game so I am not ready to throw him under the bus!

[skinsfan69]

The mistakes that JC made are all correctable. I'm honestly not worried about the QB. JC can get it done and I'm convinced of that. The problem seems that Zorn needs to hand over the offense to JC. This should not be CP's offense anymore. Kind of like how Norv handled Rivers The run was not working yet Zorn kept slamming CP into the teeth of NY's front 7. It's almost like he doesn't trust JC. IMO we just need someone else to call the plays. Zorn was caling plays like we were ahead instead of down. Also is Zorn afraid to run a hurry up? Doesn't he know JC does that very well??

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The mistakes that JC made are all correctable. I'm honestly not worried about the QB. JC can get it done and I'm convinced of that. The problem seems that Zorn needs to hand over the offense to JC. This should not be CP's offense anymore. Kind of like how Norv handled Rivers The run was not working yet Zorn kept slamming CP into the teeth of NY's front 7. It's almost like he doesn't trust JC. IMO we just need someone else to call the plays. Zorn was caling plays like we were ahead instead of down. Also is Zorn afraid to run a hurry up? Doesn't he know JC does that very well??

I agree. It's almost like Zorn needs to catch up to the team he has. Hopefully he'll make adjustments.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I agree. It's almost like Zorn needs to catch up to the team he has. Hopefully he'll make adjustments.

He did let JC take control and with a stacked D line he switched the play from a pass to a run right into the D.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

He did let JC take control and with a stacked D line he switched the play from a pass to a run right into the D.

I admit that one had me yelling at the TV screen and left me completely baffled.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The mistakes that JC made are all correctable. I'm honestly not worried about the QB. JC can get it done and I'm convinced of that. The problem seems that Zorn needs to hand over the offense to JC. This should not be CP's offense anymore. Kind of like how Norv handled Rivers The run was not working yet Zorn kept slamming CP into the teeth of NY's front 7. It's almost like he doesn't trust JC. IMO we just need someone else to call the plays. Zorn was caling plays like we were ahead instead of down. Also is Zorn afraid to run a hurry up? Doesn't he know JC does that very well??

Dude you are so right on Q. Zorn is holding JC from growing as a QB because he is trying to protect him to much. We need to be a pass 1st run 2nd team because every team knows from the off season that we want to get rid of Jason. They know we don't trust him with the ball in his hands. We showed our hand this off season not defenses are betting on us to run Portis 60% of the time.

[diehardskin2982]

Fair enough pain train. I feel that although Giants are a tough team, they are a division team and we need to step it up if we want to be the cream of the crop no exscuses

[Trample the Elderly]

No more excuses!

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Fair enough pain train. I feel that although Giants are a tough team, they are a division team and we need to step it up if we want to be the cream of the crop no exscuses

Ditto, if we want to be in the upper echelon in the league, we need to show better in games like yesterday!

[mredskins]

If you think folks on here are losing their marbles take a look at the folks at Redskins Insider, a couple are actually funny.

What we THOUGHT vs What we GOT for Game 1

THOUGHT:
Zorn year 2= Gibbs year 2

GOT:
Zorn year 2= Spurrier year 2


THOUGHT:
Campbell= Doug Williams

GOT:
Campbell= Heath Shuler


THOUGHT:
Orakpo= Wilbur Marshall

GOT:
Orakpo= Invisible Man


THOUGHT:
Haynesworth= Reggie White

GOT:
Haynesworth= Dana Stubblefield


THOUGHT:
Hall= Shut down corner

GOT:
Hall= 20 yard cushion and a missed tackle


THOUGHT:
Healthy O-Line= Portis running wild

GOT:
Healthy O-Line= Portis for 2 yards and cloud of dust


THOUGHT:
Moss, Kelly, RandelEl= The Possee

GOT:
Moss, Kelly, RandelEl= Never open (except for ARE, who can get open but keeps getting tackled by those yard markers)


THOUGHT:
Vinny Cerrato= Worst 'GM' ever

GOT:
Hey, we got one right!!

Thought: Jim Zorn was a fresh new coach with updated version of classic offense

Got: The offspring of a drunk one night stand of Norv Turner and Steve Spurrier.

[NYCskinfan82]

Based on the name of this thread can someone please lock it. It's the 1st game.

[mredskins]

^Everyone is a little JR Mod, no need to lock it, if you don't like the title don't click on the link.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by mredskins

^Everyone is a little JR Mod, no need to lock it, if you don't like the title don't click on the link.

You would think its just that easy, yet ppl will repeatedly come back and say lock the thread if its not to their liking or not going their way.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

You would think its just that easy, yet ppl will repeatedly come back and say lock the thread if its not to their liking or not going their way.

Aren't there a dozen other threads complaining about people who want threads locked where this could be posted? I'm angry. Can we lock this?